Ping: 19th century simmers

Eckstein 4 Prez · 12-28-2003, 10:49 AM

Would any of you happen to have a player file all edited and ready to go for the 1871 season? I'd like to restart my 19th century solo league, but after the file got corrupted last time I'm in no mood to spend the 5-6 hours it would take to get going again.

As a bonus, I promise that you'll be able to read about my solo league in the Dynasty threads if you get me a file. (I know, not that much of an incentive.... but that's all I can really offer.)

Thanks.....

darkhorse · 12-28-2003, 01:32 PM

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Originally posted by Eckstein 4 Prez
Would any of you happen to have a player file all edited and ready to go for the 1871 season? I'd like to restart my 19th century solo league, but after the file got corrupted last time I'm in no mood to spend the 5-6 hours it would take to get going again.

As a bonus, I promise that you'll be able to read about my solo league in the Dynasty threads if you get me a file. (I know, not that much of an incentive.... but that's all I can really offer.)

Thanks.....

I might offer help, but I'd rather be boiled alive than read anymore Josephus Morgan commentary.

Carlton · 12-28-2003, 01:53 PM

My online league (in my sig) has player photos, but the teams and stadiums are not accurate

Eckstein 4 Prez · 12-28-2003, 02:26 PM

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Originally posted by darkhorse
I might offer help, but I'd rather be boiled alive than read anymore Josephus Morgan commentary.

*sigh* I guess I have to come up with a new conceit for the next league. I was actually really enjoying that league - I'm pretty bummed that the file was corrupted somehow. I still harbor faint hopes of figuring out why it won't let me sim the postseason of 1871.

Perhaps for the next round, we can have a debate between the 1871 stathead and the "veteran presence" guy.... that might be good times.

Carlton, as a former member of the APLB, I know there's a lot of great stuff there. The one thing Pete doesn't have on the site is a pre-1871 file ready for use in OOTP5.... too bad really. I was tempted to just download the league file the other day and start from the point where you guys are with an alternate sim, but decided against it.

BaseballMan · 12-28-2003, 05:26 PM

What i did was just randomly assign data that ankit didnt have like bats, & throws etc. I also just put every unknown birthday to March 27 and then the year to where the player would be at least 18.
I didnt really think i needed to get everything perfect since some data just isnt available and since i had to use some fictional players anyway.
But it probably only took me an hour at the most.

scotto313 · 12-28-2003, 06:34 PM

Hey, your sig has changed.

BaseballMan · 12-28-2003, 07:23 PM

yeah i vchanged it about 2 weeks ago. I just been to lazy to change it back

Carlton · 12-28-2003, 08:30 PM

You quit the APBL?

You biatch!
How could you?

BaseballMan · 12-28-2003, 10:00 PM

well i found the moonlight Graham of my league so far.
After simming from 1871-1875, Harry Wright as had a total of 10 AB with no hits, no walks, nothing.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 12-29-2003, 04:37 AM

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Originally posted by Carlton
You quit the APBL?

You biatch!
How could you?

I know.... it's a great league though. And it looks to be getting even better as it gets more players. I do still check out the website periodically and see how the league's going.

One question: is MannyTrillo still running the Young Giants? He really had them as the up-and-coming team back in the day..... nice to see that some of the efforts have paid off, whether for him or for a subsequent owner.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 12-29-2003, 04:39 AM

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Originally posted by BaseballMan
What i did was just randomly assign data that ankit didnt have like bats, & throws etc. I also just put every unknown birthday to March 27 and then the year to where the player would be at least 18.
I didnt really think i needed to get everything perfect since some data just isnt available and since i had to use some fictional players anyway.
But it probably only took me an hour at the most.

I usually go kinda nuts with the editing. I fix all of the fielding data (which takes forever), and usually have to tinker with the pitching stuff as well - the 11 or so pitchers of 1871 have no data for pitching stats (at least in the 4.5 version of the database, which I use to avoid the dreading disappearing player bug). All in all, it's about a 5-6 hour process - less if I give it my undivided attention, which I usually don't.

BaseballMan · 12-29-2003, 05:10 AM

so are you using ootp5 cause i notice the lahman 5 database does have pitching stats for 1871. I was just curious why you were still using the Lahman 4.5 database.
Do you fix all the fielding data for each 19th century player?

Eckstein 4 Prez · 12-29-2003, 11:43 AM

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Originally posted by BaseballMan
so are you using ootp5 cause i notice the lahman 5 database does have pitching stats for 1871. I was just curious why you were still using the Lahman 4.5 database.
Do you fix all the fielding data for each 19th century player?

I sim with OOTP5, but I've done the import with OOTP4 because I thought the vanishing player bug was still lurking out there. Can anyone (darkhorse) confirm that one way or the other? It would make the import much easier if I can do it straight from 5.0.

And yeah, I fix the fielding data for everyone. Takes forever... I dread 1884 for weeks, since so many players debut then.

goroyals · 01-02-2004, 11:26 AM

Dang! I was the first owner of the NY Patriots (now Young Giants)! I still check the league once in a while too, but right now I'm just kicking myself!

Pyroman · 01-04-2004, 01:04 AM

I still have the original OOTP4 file I used for the APLB, although I'm not sure the editing would be what you want. At most all I did was edit fielding percentages.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 01-04-2004, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Pyroman
I still have the original OOTP4 file I used for the APLB, although I'm not sure the editing would be what you want. At most all I did was edit fielding percentages.

Anything would be a help.... and the original APLB file seems to have worked just fine. The fielding percentages are the main thing I don't want to bother with.

Pyroman · 01-04-2004, 02:33 AM

I just uploaded the file here: http://www.alt-pro-league-baseball.c...b1871ootp4.zip

Remember it's the OOTP4 version.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 01-07-2004, 03:11 AM

Thanks much.... this will save me a ton of time. God, how I hate editing all the players......

I do have one favor to ask. You still have the commish password activated for this league file, so I can't make any changes to things. Can you PM me the password? If you're worried about security for the actual league and know of a bypass for a solo league, I'll be happy to do whatever I need to.... thanks so much.

Rick

BaseballMan · 01-07-2004, 03:52 AM

Hey Eck what league settings do you use?
I thought about recalculating after each year biut that just screwed everything up.
I mostly keepp the same ones til expansion unless i have a problem with the History Utility.

I started with 4 teams in 1871 because i had to fill the rest of the rosters with fictional players to get the History Utility to work and i didnt want 8 teams full of fictional players. I will expand in 1876, 1886, and 1896.
I play 40 game seasons to start the career replay.

What i dont want is a player getting a .075 era were no modern day player has a realistic shot of passing the record But at the same time i accept the fact that no 19th century player would be in the top ten for alltime home runs kinda like real life.
Yeah i have to sacrifice pitchers wins but with a 3 man rotation they still have a shot at wining 13 games. Till 1876 then i go to 60 games, then 80 in 1886
and 100 in 1896, 140 in 1900, 154 in 1903.

Anyways my settings are Ab 10500
H 3000
2b 150
3b 175
hr 999
bb 950
hbp 125
k 2500
My goal isnt for league totals to be close to real life overall because im using Ankits career database and with some fictional players and players on different teams there would be no sense in that but what i do look at is how the leaders did.
If a player had 100 K's in a 40 game season that would mean
400 in 162 game season and i think you would agree somethings wrong there. But my leading batter for 1871 batted .406 which is not unheard of for that era. My strikeout leader had 25 and hat may only be a 100 by 162 game season but i would rather the stats be a little too low than too high.

Pyroman · 01-07-2004, 06:45 PM

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Originally posted by Pyroman
I just uploaded the file here: http://www.alt-pro-league-baseball.c...b1871ootp4.zip

Remember it's the OOTP4 version.

Sorry, I forgot to remove that. What you can do is create a new league, copy the player.dat file over to it, and reset release all and draft.

That should do it as OOTP4 did not have the player.dat security that OOTP5 has.

12-28-2003, 10:49 AM	#1
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	Ping: 19th century simmers Would any of you happen to have a player file all edited and ready to go for the 1871 season? I'd like to restart my 19th century solo league, but after the file got corrupted last time I'm in no mood to spend the 5-6 hours it would take to get going again. As a bonus, I promise that you'll be able to read about my solo league in the Dynasty threads if you get me a file. (I know, not that much of an incentive.... but that's all I can really offer.) Thanks..... __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

12-28-2003, 01:53 PM	#3
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	My online league (in my sig) has player photos, but the teams and stadiums are not accurate __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

12-28-2003, 08:30 PM	#8
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	You quit the APBL? You biatch! How could you? __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

01-07-2004, 03:11 AM	#18
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	Thanks much.... this will save me a ton of time. God, how I hate editing all the players...... I do have one favor to ask. You still have the commish password activated for this league file, so I can't make any changes to things. Can you PM me the password? If you're worried about security for the actual league and know of a bypass for a solo league, I'll be happy to do whatever I need to.... thanks so much. Rick __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871. Last edited by Eckstein 4 Prez; 01-07-2004 at 03:18 AM.

01-07-2004, 03:52 AM	#19
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,642	Hey Eck what league settings do you use? I thought about recalculating after each year biut that just screwed everything up. I mostly keepp the same ones til expansion unless i have a problem with the History Utility. I started with 4 teams in 1871 because i had to fill the rest of the rosters with fictional players to get the History Utility to work and i didnt want 8 teams full of fictional players. I will expand in 1876, 1886, and 1896. I play 40 game seasons to start the career replay. What i dont want is a player getting a .075 era were no modern day player has a realistic shot of passing the record But at the same time i accept the fact that no 19th century player would be in the top ten for alltime home runs kinda like real life. Yeah i have to sacrifice pitchers wins but with a 3 man rotation they still have a shot at wining 13 games. Till 1876 then i go to 60 games, then 80 in 1886 and 100 in 1896, 140 in 1900, 154 in 1903. Anyways my settings are Ab 10500 H 3000 2b 150 3b 175 hr 999 bb 950 hbp 125 k 2500 My goal isnt for league totals to be close to real life overall because im using Ankits career database and with some fictional players and players on different teams there would be no sense in that but what i do look at is how the leaders did. If a player had 100 K's in a 40 game season that would mean 400 in 162 game season and i think you would agree somethings wrong there. But my leading batter for 1871 batted .406 which is not unheard of for that era. My strikeout leader had 25 and hat may only be a 100 by 162 game season but i would rather the stats be a little too low than too high. Last edited by BaseballMan; 01-08-2004 at 08:55 PM.

12-28-2003, 05:26 PM	#5
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,642	What i did was just randomly assign data that ankit didnt have like bats, & throws etc. I also just put every unknown birthday to March 27 and then the year to where the player would be at least 18. I didnt really think i needed to get everything perfect since some data just isnt available and since i had to use some fictional players anyway. But it probably only took me an hour at the most.

12-28-2003, 06:34 PM	#6
scotto313 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Cleveland, Ohio Posts: 1,220	Hey, your sig has changed.

12-28-2003, 07:23 PM	#7
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,642	yeah i vchanged it about 2 weeks ago. I just been to lazy to change it back

12-28-2003, 10:00 PM	#9
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,642	well i found the moonlight Graham of my league so far. After simming from 1871-1875, Harry Wright as had a total of 10 AB with no hits, no walks, nothing.

12-29-2003, 05:10 AM	#12
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,642	so are you using ootp5 cause i notice the lahman 5 database does have pitching stats for 1871. I was just curious why you were still using the Lahman 4.5 database. Do you fix all the fielding data for each 19th century player?

01-02-2004, 11:26 AM	#14
goroyals All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 930	Dang! I was the first owner of the NY Patriots (now Young Giants)! I still check the league once in a while too, but right now I'm just kicking myself!

01-04-2004, 01:04 AM	#15
Pyroman Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 158	I still have the original OOTP4 file I used for the APLB, although I'm not sure the editing would be what you want. At most all I did was edit fielding percentages.

01-04-2004, 02:33 AM	#17
Pyroman Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: New York Posts: 158	I just uploaded the file here: http://www.alt-pro-league-baseball.c...b1871ootp4.zip Remember it's the OOTP4 version.