Pitcher gets a win for doing nothing

p090 · 05-26-2002, 09:26 PM

If this has been mentioned before I apologize. I scanned the titles of the first page of items but didn't see anything to match.

This is probably not a big deal but moreso a warning to others.

I had a pitcher warmed up (I use the warm up option in games I play). And I slid him into the pitcher's slot while my offense was up (AL with the DH). I figured he'd just be ready to go. Well in the situation I was in it was the bottom half of the 9th or later (not relevant). My offense got the winning run home and the guy I put into the pitching role got the win even though he had never taken the mound in the game.

Steve Kuffrey · 05-27-2002, 03:50 AM

Should not have happened BUT you probably shouldn't have put the pitcher into the game at that point, wait till they hit the field again.

Scott Vibert · 05-27-2002, 06:16 AM

This occurred because you but the guy in the game and then your team took the lead, so the game (correctly) assigned the win to the pitcher who was in the game at the point when his team took the lead.

JML · 05-27-2002, 07:35 AM

Good example of why pitcher's win totals can be totally meaningless. I love how a pitcher can come in for an inning, blow a lead, then have his team take another lead, and he gets the win. Not complaining about OOTP, this happens in MLB too.

Cory S. Ridgway · 05-31-2002, 11:56 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ScottVib:
This occurred because you but the guy in the game and then your team took the lead, so the game (correctly) assigned the win to the pitcher who was in the game at the point when his team took the lead.<hr /></blockquote>A pitcher cannot become the pitcher of record without taking the mound. To be the pitcher of record one must...

1 Face a batter, or
2 Record an out (can be done w/o a BPF)

It's possible to get a blown save without doing one of those things (run scoring due to SB, WP, or PB), but not a loss. Wins, saves, and holds require that the pitcher record an out.

The simplest fix would be to lock out pitching changes while batting (even batting another pitcher for a pitcher is considered pinch-hitting after all)

Cory

05-26-2002, 09:26 PM	#1
p090 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 116	Pitcher gets a win for doing nothing If this has been mentioned before I apologize. I scanned the titles of the first page of items but didn't see anything to match. This is probably not a big deal but moreso a warning to others. I had a pitcher warmed up (I use the warm up option in games I play). And I slid him into the pitcher's slot while my offense was up (AL with the DH). I figured he'd just be ready to go. Well in the situation I was in it was the bottom half of the 9th or later (not relevant). My offense got the winning run home and the guy I put into the pitching role got the win even though he had never taken the mound in the game.

05-27-2002, 03:50 AM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Should not have happened BUT you probably shouldn't have put the pitcher into the game at that point, wait till they hit the field again. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

05-31-2002, 11:56 AM	#5
Cory S. Ridgway Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: San Diego Posts: 36	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ScottVib: <strong>This occurred because you but the guy in the game and then your team took the lead, so the game (correctly) assigned the win to the pitcher who was in the game at the point when his team took the lead.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">A pitcher cannot become the pitcher of record without taking the mound. To be the pitcher of record one must... 1 Face a batter, or 2 Record an out (can be done w/o a BPF) It's possible to get a blown save without doing one of those things (run scoring due to SB, WP, or PB), but not a loss. Wins, saves, and holds require that the pitcher record an out. The simplest fix would be to lock out pitching changes while batting (even batting another pitcher for a pitcher is considered pinch-hitting after all) Cory

05-27-2002, 06:16 AM	#3
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	This occurred because you but the guy in the game and then your team took the lead, so the game (correctly) assigned the win to the pitcher who was in the game at the point when his team took the lead.

05-27-2002, 07:35 AM	#4
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	Good example of why pitcher's win totals can be totally meaningless. I love how a pitcher can come in for an inning, blow a lead, then have his team take another lead, and he gets the win. Not complaining about OOTP, this happens in MLB too.