The Life? of a reliever?

closer-a-rama · 12-21-2003, 08:13 PM

Hello baseball fans,

I'm now running through the game a second time with a reliever and I'm beginning to wonder if the logic in the game was ever meant to handle this choice of a career.

Here's just the latest example:

My pitcher is drafter by KC (ugh) then procedes to develop into a strikeout machine in the minors. Averaging OVER 2 k's per inning. Yet the 5 years I'm with them, all they do is call me up when the rosters expand to do mop up relief. Every year with them, the team loses around 100 games, never in contention, yet all I do is dominate in the minors (as a set-up man) and then mop-up in the majors.

When I'm finally a free agent (which during my last season with KC, I go to negotiate a contract and the GM tells me I'm a future hall of famer) the Diamondbacks sign me to a 3 years at close to 3 million per year! Woo-hoo! Wait....doh! They start me in their triple A team, and then....yup I'm called up at the roster expansion to mop-up and then dropped when the playoffs arive. All the while I'm still averaging 2k's per inning with a ERA around 2.

So what exactly does it take for a club to make you a main set up man or the closer? Has anyone tried becoming a closer in this game yet? What do you have to do? My skills are Velocity 100, Stuff 100, control 80, Poise 90 and yet all I do at the big leage level is mop-up relief? Something isn't right here.

On a side note, it looks like the defensive bonuses don't get added to pitchers (such as gloves and shoes) anyone else notice this?

crict · 12-22-2003, 12:04 AM

My reliever, far from being as good as you (around 70/70/60/60) reached he majors for good at the end of his third pro season.

His rookie year (4th in the pro) he was 1st mop-up pitcher and 3rd in middle relief. Ended up pitching about 80 innings with a 5,00 ERA and a 1,60 WHIP.

Still in the same role at the beginning of 5th pro season

crict · 12-22-2003, 02:14 AM

Well, you might have something there...

My pitcher was left only with the mop-up role in 2007, and his innings fell to 40, even though he wasn't injured and spent all season in the majors. He pitched way better (2,85 ERA, 1,17 WHIP) but he was totaly forgotten on the bench, pitching only 6,1 in the second half over 5 games (without allowing a run).

My team had an 11-pitcher staff, but with 8 starters and only 3 relievers. For a good part of the year the team had only one setup-man.

Weird.

CXCross · 12-22-2003, 02:44 AM

I think the game might have a problem if you want to be a closer-type character. My character right now was kind of designed as a middle-reliever/set-up man.

Now in my 14th season (8 for Florida and 6 for Anaheim) and 35 years old--I've never had a slot higher than mop-up relief or 3rd slot middle-relief.

Despite that, I average about 70 games a year with slightly more than that number of IPs

Stats:
G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO
943 0 53 39 9 3.63 1002.2 1039 455 404 284 666 0 0

No rings, no All Star appearances...no shot at the Cy Young...and my salary?

The strangest thing? I make no more than 3-4 appearances during the months of Sept/Oct--AT MOST.

I realize the club wants to take a look at the younger talent...but to bench your workhorse (as my player typically is) for an ENTIRE MONTH seems off...

Markus Heinsohn · 12-22-2003, 03:16 AM

Hmmm... this is indeed strange, I will take a deep look at it!

bigcat · 12-22-2003, 10:37 AM

Two more things to take a look at.
Outfields players starting a career as a center fielder with 100 defense and 100 speed becoming career left fielders because a major league manager had them play there once.
A month long slump for every player after the All Star Game.

12-21-2003, 08:13 PM	#1
closer-a-rama Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 6	The Life? of a reliever? Hello baseball fans, I'm now running through the game a second time with a reliever and I'm beginning to wonder if the logic in the game was ever meant to handle this choice of a career. Here's just the latest example: My pitcher is drafter by KC (ugh) then procedes to develop into a strikeout machine in the minors. Averaging OVER 2 k's per inning. Yet the 5 years I'm with them, all they do is call me up when the rosters expand to do mop up relief. Every year with them, the team loses around 100 games, never in contention, yet all I do is dominate in the minors (as a set-up man) and then mop-up in the majors. When I'm finally a free agent (which during my last season with KC, I go to negotiate a contract and the GM tells me I'm a future hall of famer) the Diamondbacks sign me to a 3 years at close to 3 million per year! Woo-hoo! Wait....doh! They start me in their triple A team, and then....yup I'm called up at the roster expansion to mop-up and then dropped when the playoffs arive. All the while I'm still averaging 2k's per inning with a ERA around 2. So what exactly does it take for a club to make you a main set up man or the closer? Has anyone tried becoming a closer in this game yet? What do you have to do? My skills are Velocity 100, Stuff 100, control 80, Poise 90 and yet all I do at the big leage level is mop-up relief? Something isn't right here. On a side note, it looks like the defensive bonuses don't get added to pitchers (such as gloves and shoes) anyone else notice this?

12-22-2003, 02:44 AM	#4
CXCross Bat Boy Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 12	I think the game might have a problem if you want to be a closer-type character. My character right now was kind of designed as a middle-reliever/set-up man. Now in my 14th season (8 for Florida and 6 for Anaheim) and 35 years old--I've never had a slot higher than mop-up relief or 3rd slot middle-relief. Despite that, I average about 70 games a year with slightly more than that number of IPs Stats: G GS W L SV ERA IP HA R ER BB K CG SHO 943 0 53 39 9 3.63 1002.2 1039 455 404 284 666 0 0 No rings, no All Star appearances...no shot at the Cy Young...and my salary? The strangest thing? I make no more than 3-4 appearances during the months of Sept/Oct--AT MOST. I realize the club wants to take a look at the younger talent...but to bench your workhorse (as my player typically is) for an ENTIRE MONTH seems off... __________________ CX

12-22-2003, 03:16 AM	#5
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	Hmmm... this is indeed strange, I will take a deep look at it! __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

12-22-2003, 12:04 AM	#2
crict Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 37	My reliever, far from being as good as you (around 70/70/60/60) reached he majors for good at the end of his third pro season. His rookie year (4th in the pro) he was 1st mop-up pitcher and 3rd in middle relief. Ended up pitching about 80 innings with a 5,00 ERA and a 1,60 WHIP. Still in the same role at the beginning of 5th pro season

12-22-2003, 02:14 AM	#3
crict Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 37	Well, you might have something there... My pitcher was left only with the mop-up role in 2007, and his innings fell to 40, even though he wasn't injured and spent all season in the majors. He pitched way better (2,85 ERA, 1,17 WHIP) but he was totaly forgotten on the bench, pitching only 6,1 in the second half over 5 games (without allowing a run). My team had an 11-pitcher staff, but with 8 starters and only 3 relievers. For a good part of the year the team had only one setup-man. Weird.

12-22-2003, 10:37 AM	#6
bigcat Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 190	Two more things to take a look at. Outfields players starting a career as a center fielder with 100 defense and 100 speed becoming career left fielders because a major league manager had them play there once. A month long slump for every player after the All Star Game.