“Bad Person” Alert

rem · 10-31-2003, 12:41 AM

I’m sorry to contribute to the negative energy (i.e. Cheating Stuff) going on around here but felt this is an important. I don’t intend this as a sad story but merely want to inform people.

I had a made a partnership with beatnikpoet13 to form a historical league which I have been creating, as some of you know I’ve been having some difficulties obtaining webspace. He contacted me and we agreed to work together. At first, everything seemed great but after a few days, I stopped hearing from him. I didn’t think it was a big deal since as a Yankee fan his attention would be elsewhere. But as time continued to go on and I didn’t hear anything I grew more worried. He wasn’t responding to my instant messages (I noticed him changing away messages) and didn’t respond to my e-mails either. After about a week and ½ of no contact things came to a head tonight. After, I aimed him and he didn’t respond I had a friend aim him. He responded immediately and then I aimed him again but got no response. Then I let him know that I considered things to be basically over and he signed off shortly afterwards.

Remangiii [11:15 PM]: hello
Remangiii [11:25 PM]: hi
Remangiii [11:27 PM]: (11:18) mybuddy: heya
(11:19) beatnikpoet13: ?

I know your there. Am I correct in assuming you don't wish to continue?

Remangiii [11:30 PM]: I'll take that as a yes. I suppose it would also be correct to assume that you won't return the money?

He had signed off before the 11:30 message came, my friends clock is also a little slower than mine or mine is a little faster than his. For the record the money in question was forty dollars I sent him to cover half the cost of the site. While he obviously wouldn’t have been responsible for this; I sent the money UPS so that was 10 bucks and I brought a program needed to use his preferred type of site for 35 bucks (that would probably still have some use). The honorable thing to do would be to return the first 40. It really doesn’t bother me that much, I’m mostly upset that he refused to let me know he didn’t want to continue even though he must have made the decision quite some time ago. For anyone interested that little he put up can be found at www.13circles.com/abl I have no idea how long that will stay up for.

Important Information about him is:

AIM: beatnikpoet13
E-Mail: zacharywisniewski@hotmail.com
OOTP Message Board Name: zsommers
A thread he started which I didn’t see till after the fact: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...threadid=46151

I have his address too, but I wouldn’t do that till him. I’m just disclosing this information so that others will be aware, as I said before I’m not looking for a shoulder to cry on. I know I shouldn’t trust strangers.

CubsSox · 10-31-2003, 01:37 AM

I just hope you learned the lesson here... don't be so trusting of people on the internet.

Cuss16 · 10-31-2003, 02:08 AM

thanks for the heads up.

MTXperience · 10-31-2003, 02:31 AM

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Originally posted by CubsSox
I just hope you learned the lesson here... don't be so trusting of people on the internet.

You don't really have to quallify like that do you? I'd advise not trusting anyone... regardless of the internet.

jaxmagicman · 10-31-2003, 08:00 AM

Never trust a yankee fan.

paulywerner · 10-31-2003, 10:50 AM

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Originally posted by jaxmagicman
Never trust a yankee fan.

I resent that remark..... lol... plus Yankees have all the money anyways, so thats why you should never send us money...

On a serious note, give me his address, and we could pull a Jay and Silent Bob on his ass....lol

Carlton · 10-31-2003, 02:32 PM

Snooch to the mother$%$^ NOOCH!

John C · 10-31-2003, 05:46 PM

That'll teach you to make another America Baseball League!

paulywerner · 10-31-2003, 05:51 PM

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Originally posted by John C
That'll teach you to make another America Baseball League!

We're not going to have another episode of WWF or one of those other identity theft cases, are we?...lol

paulywerner · 10-31-2003, 05:52 PM

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Originally posted by Carlton
Snooch to the mother$%$^ NOOCH!

BONNNNNGGGGG !!

CommishJoe · 10-31-2003, 10:13 PM

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Originally posted by jaxmagicman
Never trust a yankee fan.

Hey now, be nice!!

Remangii, contact me. I'll see what I can do to help.

rem · 11-01-2003, 12:25 AM

As it turns out a misunderstanding occured. The partnership won't continue but the money will be returned.

(Amazing how he suddenly answered my e-mail)

Karen Lutz · 11-01-2003, 01:33 AM

no, it isn't amazing, you simply jumped the gun here, his child was hospitalized and he simply needed some time to get his affairs in order. He will send you your money, your 'bad person' was nothing more than someone who had some very unfortunate circumstances occur right when you decided he was doing this to be biligerant. Enough said.

MTXperience · 11-01-2003, 03:09 AM

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Originally posted by Karen Lutz
Enough said.

Not really.

He could have at least returned the guy's IMs.... explaining the situation. I can understand if he wasn't anywhere near his computer, I sure wouldn't have been... but he was seen changing away messages and the like.

I certainly don't think that remangii was crossing any line, it certainly seemed from his end that he was being had. If the gentlemen had indeed been in front of his computer for any amount of time, he could have dropped remangii a quick line explaining what the circumstances were.

CommishJoe · 11-01-2003, 09:07 AM

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Originally posted by Karen Lutz
his child was hospitalized

Is his kid Ok?

skkrrt · 11-01-2003, 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Karen Lutz
no, it isn't amazing, you simply jumped the gun here, his child was hospitalized and he simply needed some time to get his affairs in order. He will send you your money, your 'bad person' was nothing more than someone who had some very unfortunate circumstances occur right when you decided he was doing this to be biligerant. Enough said.

like MTX said he could have simply typed what you jsut did into an IM in oh 2 minutes.

And also if you know so much about the situation why didn't YOU tell Remangiii.

and yea is the kid ok?

zsommers · 11-01-2003, 11:49 AM

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Originally posted by MTXperience
Not really.

He could have at least returned the guy's IMs.... explaining the situation. I can understand if he wasn't anywhere near his computer, I sure wouldn't have been... but he was seen changing away messages and the like.

I certainly don't think that remangii was crossing any line, it certainly seemed from his end that he was being had. If the gentlemen had indeed been in front of his computer for any amount of time, he could have dropped remangii a quick line explaining what the circumstances were.

if it had been me at my computer, i most certainly would have responded to remangiii's instant messages. however, i'm not the only one in my house who uses the internet, and sometimes they don't want to be bothered by the instant messages i get.

i don't feel the need to explain myself; i just wanted to clarify a few things. as it stands his money will be mailed back to him, so i'm considering this situation dealt with.

rem · 11-01-2003, 12:45 PM

The situation has been resolved, I’m sorry if I over-reacted. I too hope that his son is better.

MTXperience · 11-01-2003, 02:20 PM

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Originally posted by zsommers
if it had been me at my computer, i most certainly would have responded to remangiii's instant messages. however, i'm not the only one in my house who uses the internet, and sometimes they don't want to be bothered by the instant messages i get.

Completely understood... and I'm sure there are no ambivalent feelings or any stains on your reputation as a web-host.

Health and happiness to you and yours.

Jestre · 11-01-2003, 04:56 PM

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Originally posted by Karen Lutz
no, it isn't amazing, you simply jumped the gun here, his child was hospitalized and he simply needed some time to get his affairs in order. He will send you your money, your 'bad person' was nothing more than someone who had some very unfortunate circumstances occur right when you decided he was doing this to be biligerant. Enough said.

I doubt that there is a person that read this post that wouldn't have reacted the same way... Is he supposed to be psychic???? It's real easy to judge after the fact....

10-31-2003, 12:41 AM	#1
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	“Bad Person” Alert I’m sorry to contribute to the negative energy (i.e. Cheating Stuff) going on around here but felt this is an important. I don’t intend this as a sad story but merely want to inform people. I had a made a partnership with beatnikpoet13 to form a historical league which I have been creating, as some of you know I’ve been having some difficulties obtaining webspace. He contacted me and we agreed to work together. At first, everything seemed great but after a few days, I stopped hearing from him. I didn’t think it was a big deal since as a Yankee fan his attention would be elsewhere. But as time continued to go on and I didn’t hear anything I grew more worried. He wasn’t responding to my instant messages (I noticed him changing away messages) and didn’t respond to my e-mails either. After about a week and ½ of no contact things came to a head tonight. After, I aimed him and he didn’t respond I had a friend aim him. He responded immediately and then I aimed him again but got no response. Then I let him know that I considered things to be basically over and he signed off shortly afterwards. Remangiii [11:15 PM]: hello Remangiii [11:25 PM]: hi Remangiii [11:27 PM]: (11:18) mybuddy: heya (11:19) beatnikpoet13: ? I know your there. Am I correct in assuming you don't wish to continue? Remangiii [11:30 PM]: I'll take that as a yes. I suppose it would also be correct to assume that you won't return the money? He had signed off before the 11:30 message came, my friends clock is also a little slower than mine or mine is a little faster than his. For the record the money in question was forty dollars I sent him to cover half the cost of the site. While he obviously wouldn’t have been responsible for this; I sent the money UPS so that was 10 bucks and I brought a program needed to use his preferred type of site for 35 bucks (that would probably still have some use). The honorable thing to do would be to return the first 40. It really doesn’t bother me that much, I’m mostly upset that he refused to let me know he didn’t want to continue even though he must have made the decision quite some time ago. For anyone interested that little he put up can be found at www.13circles.com/abl I have no idea how long that will stay up for. Important Information about him is: AIM: beatnikpoet13 E-Mail: zacharywisniewski@hotmail.com OOTP Message Board Name: zsommers A thread he started which I didn’t see till after the fact: http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...threadid=46151 I have his address too, but I wouldn’t do that till him. I’m just disclosing this information so that others will be aware, as I said before I’m not looking for a shoulder to cry on. I know I shouldn’t trust strangers. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

10-31-2003, 01:37 AM	#2
CubsSox Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 206	I just hope you learned the lesson here... don't be so trusting of people on the internet. __________________ It's me... Chae!

10-31-2003, 02:08 AM	#3
Cuss16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 2,994	thanks for the heads up. __________________

10-31-2003, 08:00 AM	#5
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Never trust a yankee fan. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

10-31-2003, 02:32 PM	#7
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	Snooch to the mother$%$^ NOOCH! __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

10-31-2003, 05:46 PM	#8
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11-01-2003, 12:25 AM	#12
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	As it turns out a misunderstanding occured. The partnership won't continue but the money will be returned. (Amazing how he suddenly answered my e-mail) __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

11-01-2003, 01:33 AM	#13
Karen Lutz Ball Breaker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada OOTPChampionships: 5 Posts: 898	no, it isn't amazing, you simply jumped the gun here, his child was hospitalized and he simply needed some time to get his affairs in order. He will send you your money, your 'bad person' was nothing more than someone who had some very unfortunate circumstances occur right when you decided he was doing this to be biligerant. Enough said.

11-01-2003, 12:45 PM	#18
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	The situation has been resolved, I’m sorry if I over-reacted. I too hope that his son is better. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0