1957 SO49 Hall of Fame Ballot

The Professor · 10-30-2003, 07:43 PM

It is Hall of Fame Voting time in SO49...and as always I welcome any input from the OOTP Forums. Here is quick rundown of primary candidates, but write-in votes are always welcome.

SO49 Hall of Fame Page

SO49 Career Leaders (for Links to Players)

Official SO49 Career Leaders Board (for Historical Reference)

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2B Joe Gordon
New York Yankees, Cleveland Indians 1938-1954
2,148 Hits, .274 BAVG
382 HR
1410 RBI
Primary catalyst in Indians AL Championships 1949-51, and 1953 -- World Championships 1951 and 1953

OF Bill "Swish" Nicholson
Philadelphia A's, Chicago Cubs, New York Giants 1936-1953
2,112 Hits, .278 BAVG
367 HR
1343 RBI

OF Jeff Heath
Cleveland Indians, St. Louis Browns, Boston Braves 1936-1954
2,347 Hits, .292 BAVG
321 HR
1321 RBI
Star of 1948-49 Boston Braves World Championship teams

SS Lou Boudreau
Cleveland Indians 1938-1956
2,724 Hits, .292 BAVG
156 HR
1467 RBI
12-Time All Star!
Also Managed the Indians from 1941-1948

2B Bobby Doerr
Boston Red Sox, St. Louis Browns 1937-1956
2,424 Hits, .274 BAVG
242 HR
1421 RBI

P Russ Christopher
Philadelphia A's, Cleveland Indians 1942-1956
94-112 Career Record
352 Saves, #1 All-Time at Time of Retirement
3.55 Career ERA
8 Consecutive 30+ Save Seasons, 7 of which were 35 +

P Bob Feller
Cleveland Indians 1936-1953
198-100 Career Record
3.20 ERA
2,151 Career Strikeouts
Lost 1942-44 to WWII Service
Career was curtailed by injuries after 1948...

Some other players who pre-dated our league's beginning (but aren't in the Hall of Fame)

- Dizzy Dean
- Doc Cramer
- Al Simmons

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Thanks!

HerbD · 10-30-2003, 08:13 PM

Indians manager George "The Bull" Uhle:
6 seasons
4 AL Championships
2 World Series Championships
547-377 career record

Player for CLE, NYY, DET, & NYG(career was Pre-SO49)
1919~1936
17 seasons
200-166 career record/25 saves
3.99 career ERA
Pitched 3 scoreless innings of relief helping the Indians win the 1920 WS

JDScorch · 10-30-2003, 10:50 PM

Although it likely will never happen, I will lobby for banned OF "Shoeless" Joe Jackson to finally have his ban lifted and be allowed into the Hall where he belongs!

UKSubs · 10-30-2003, 11:11 PM

I thought Shoeless Joe required unanimous consent of the Summer of '49 owners, so as long as I remained in the league, the Hall would remain cheater-free.

Oh, and I would like to encourage everyone to vote for Bobby Doerr because he played for the Red Sox.

JDScorch · 10-30-2003, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by UKSubs
I thought Shoeless Joe required unanimous consent of the Summer of '49 owners, so as long as I remained in the league, the Hall would remain cheater-free.

Oh, and I would like to encourage everyone to vote for Bobby Doerr because he played for the Red Sox.

Looks like you're going to have to boot some guys out, if indeed you profess to have a cheater free Hall of Fame. Or are we only talking about cheating on Baseball, which I believe Joe was actually found innocent of in a court of law wasn't he? You are right though, unanimous vote is what Nathan requires.

Jim

HerbD · 10-31-2003, 09:24 AM

C'mon people...Russ Christopher was the pioneer of the closer position. 350 saves before 1960...how can he not get in...Russ Christopher needs your support!

UKSubs · 10-31-2003, 11:29 AM

Because Russ Christopher was an Indian. And those wily Indians always managed to outlast the bridesmaids in Boston. Forcing us into exile in San Francisco.

Frank7350 · 10-31-2003, 03:34 PM

Forget Uhle...What about Hal Newhouser!!! The guy was absolutely dominant on the mound until his career ending injury and now he skippered the Tigers to 2 pennants and a World Championship! He completely reveresed the clubs fortunes!

Regardless, this is a much better thread then all the other mfitterer and cheater ones....All the negativity is starting to ruin my vibes

Frank7350 · 10-31-2003, 03:36 PM

I'm with you Jim on Shoeless Joe.... He should be in the Hall. Leave it to some 2 bit future lawyer from Jersey to throw the wrench in our campaigning! As if there aren't already enough lawyers in Jersey

UKSubs · 10-31-2003, 04:07 PM

Leave it some 2 bit current lawyer from Jersey to campaign for Shoeless Joe in the Hall. Though I agree that there are too many lawyers in Jersey.

simboy · 11-01-2003, 12:57 PM

Shoeless Joe Jackson... Yeah, I write him in every year.

TC Dale · 11-01-2003, 01:03 PM

I voted for Russ Christopher, that is a great record for the Indians, and deserves a lot more consideration for the position.

HerbD · 11-01-2003, 06:43 PM

Thanks TC!

Russ and Uhle need some love from the voters...Gordon and Boudreau seem to be locks at this point but I when you think of those great SO49 Indians title winners you have to include Christopher and "The Bull".

HerbD · 11-02-2003, 11:46 AM

bump

Michael Xavier · 11-02-2003, 12:23 PM

Why don't we ever get any former Reds on the ballot? This league is against the Reds!!!

JDScorch · 11-02-2003, 12:58 PM

It does seem to be a lot of Cleveland players... I don't see too many former Giants listed either. I definately think it is a conspiracy, or wait maybe our teams just sucked.

MannyTrillo · 11-02-2003, 01:59 PM

No White Sox either- a little strange since Eddie Malone retired this year, perhaps the greatest backup catcher in the history of So'49.

View Poll Results: Hall of Fame Nominees
Joe Gordon	12	57.14%
Bill Nicholson	1	4.76%
Jeff Heath	0	0%
Lou Boudreau	14	66.67%
Bob Feller	7	33.33%
Russ Christopher	5	23.81%
Bobby Doerr	4	19.05%
Dizzy Dean	7	33.33%
Al Simmons	7	33.33%
Other, Write In (Please Post Reply)	2	9.52%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 21. You may not vote on this poll

10-30-2003, 08:13 PM	#2
HerbD All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 982	Indians manager George "The Bull" Uhle: 6 seasons 4 AL Championships 2 World Series Championships 547-377 career record Player for CLE, NYY, DET, & NYG(career was Pre-SO49) 1919~1936 17 seasons 200-166 career record/25 saves 3.99 career ERA Pitched 3 scoreless innings of relief helping the Indians win the 1920 WS __________________

10-30-2003, 10:50 PM	#3
JDScorch Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 234	Say it ain't so Joe Although it likely will never happen, I will lobby for banned OF "Shoeless" Joe Jackson to finally have his ban lifted and be allowed into the Hall where he belongs! __________________ SO49 Minnesota Giants 1955, 1959, 1969 Champs MCBL Chicago White Sox 1954 amd 1956 Champs MLBC Philadelphia Phillies 1959, 1960 and 1974 Champs

10-30-2003, 11:11 PM	#4
UKSubs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 272	I thought Shoeless Joe required unanimous consent of the Summer of '49 owners, so as long as I remained in the league, the Hall would remain cheater-free. Oh, and I would like to encourage everyone to vote for Bobby Doerr because he played for the Red Sox. __________________ Counter Culture Baseball Commissioner/Houston Astros RANZBA Adelaide Crows

10-31-2003, 09:24 AM	#6
HerbD All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 982	C'mon people...Russ Christopher was the pioneer of the closer position. 350 saves before 1960...how can he not get in...Russ Christopher needs your support! __________________

10-30-2003, 07:43 PM	#1
The Professor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: East of East Posts: 3,020	1957 SO49 Hall of Fame Ballot It is Hall of Fame Voting time in SO49...and as always I welcome any input from the OOTP Forums. Here is quick rundown of primary candidates, but write-in votes are always welcome. SO49 Hall of Fame Page SO49 Career Leaders (for Links to Players) Official SO49 Career Leaders Board (for Historical Reference) ------------------------------------------------ 2B Joe Gordon New York Yankees, Cleveland Indians 1938-1954 2,148 Hits, .274 BAVG 382 HR 1410 RBI Primary catalyst in Indians AL Championships 1949-51, and 1953 -- World Championships 1951 and 1953 OF Bill "Swish" Nicholson Philadelphia A's, Chicago Cubs, New York Giants 1936-1953 2,112 Hits, .278 BAVG 367 HR 1343 RBI OF Jeff Heath Cleveland Indians, St. Louis Browns, Boston Braves 1936-1954 2,347 Hits, .292 BAVG 321 HR 1321 RBI Star of 1948-49 Boston Braves World Championship teams SS Lou Boudreau Cleveland Indians 1938-1956 2,724 Hits, .292 BAVG 156 HR 1467 RBI 12-Time All Star! Also Managed the Indians from 1941-1948 2B Bobby Doerr Boston Red Sox, St. Louis Browns 1937-1956 2,424 Hits, .274 BAVG 242 HR 1421 RBI P Russ Christopher Philadelphia A's, Cleveland Indians 1942-1956 94-112 Career Record 352 Saves, #1 All-Time at Time of Retirement 3.55 Career ERA 8 Consecutive 30+ Save Seasons, 7 of which were 35 + P Bob Feller Cleveland Indians 1936-1953 198-100 Career Record 3.20 ERA 2,151 Career Strikeouts Lost 1942-44 to WWII Service Career was curtailed by injuries after 1948... Some other players who pre-dated our league's beginning (but aren't in the Hall of Fame) - Dizzy Dean - Doc Cramer - Al Simmons ------------------------------------------------ Thanks! __________________ History isn't really about the past - settling old scores. It's about defining the present and who we are."

10-31-2003, 11:29 AM	#7
UKSubs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 272	Because Russ Christopher was an Indian. And those wily Indians always managed to outlast the bridesmaids in Boston. Forcing us into exile in San Francisco. __________________ Counter Culture Baseball Commissioner/Houston Astros RANZBA Adelaide Crows

10-31-2003, 03:34 PM	#8
Frank7350 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jersey Posts: 132	Forget Uhle...What about Hal Newhouser!!! The guy was absolutely dominant on the mound until his career ending injury and now he skippered the Tigers to 2 pennants and a World Championship! He completely reveresed the clubs fortunes! Regardless, this is a much better thread then all the other mfitterer and cheater ones....All the negativity is starting to ruin my vibes

10-31-2003, 03:36 PM	#9
Frank7350 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jersey Posts: 132	I'm with you Jim on Shoeless Joe.... He should be in the Hall. Leave it to some 2 bit future lawyer from Jersey to throw the wrench in our campaigning! As if there aren't already enough lawyers in Jersey

10-31-2003, 04:07 PM	#10
UKSubs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 272	Leave it some 2 bit current lawyer from Jersey to campaign for Shoeless Joe in the Hall. Though I agree that there are too many lawyers in Jersey. __________________ Counter Culture Baseball Commissioner/Houston Astros RANZBA Adelaide Crows

11-01-2003, 12:57 PM	#11
simboy Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 36	Shoeless Joe Jackson... Yeah, I write him in every year. __________________ Free Agent

11-01-2003, 01:03 PM	#12
TC Dale Global Moderator Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 4,984	I voted for Russ Christopher, that is a great record for the Indians, and deserves a lot more consideration for the position. __________________ ----------------------------------

11-01-2003, 06:43 PM	#13
HerbD All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 982	Thanks TC! Russ and Uhle need some love from the voters...Gordon and Boudreau seem to be locks at this point but I when you think of those great SO49 Indians title winners you have to include Christopher and "The Bull". __________________

11-02-2003, 11:46 AM	#14
HerbD All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 982	bump __________________

11-02-2003, 12:23 PM	#15
Michael Xavier Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Evansville, IN Posts: 456	Why don't we ever get any former Reds on the ballot? This league is against the Reds!!! __________________ OOTP since March 2002

11-02-2003, 12:58 PM	#16
JDScorch Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Minnesota Posts: 234	It does seem to be a lot of Cleveland players... I don't see too many former Giants listed either. I definately think it is a conspiracy, or wait maybe our teams just sucked. __________________ SO49 Minnesota Giants 1955, 1959, 1969 Champs MCBL Chicago White Sox 1954 amd 1956 Champs MLBC Philadelphia Phillies 1959, 1960 and 1974 Champs

11-02-2003, 01:59 PM	#17
MannyTrillo All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 664	No White Sox either- a little strange since Eddie Malone retired this year, perhaps the greatest backup catcher in the history of So'49. __________________ Poster emeritus "Not butchery, dining!!" obt sk cmh ct President, A-1 Aces OT Posting Club Click here to join