Real Beisbol Starting Up, Needs Dedicated Owners

mfitterer1 · 10-14-2003, 01:28 PM

A friend of mine is starting a league called Real Besibol, I am the site designer, we are looking for active and committed owners that own ootp5. The league is a modern day league with rocco's roster set from the waiver wire, and we have no salary cap, dh in both leagues and a contraction draft. Once the league fills up we will have a acontraction draft based on this yr's regular season records.

We have contracted the following teams: BAL, DET, MON, PIT, MIL, COL

The teams that are taken are: FLA, CHC, ATL, OAK, BOS

All other teams are open, please post here if you are interested in joining. The site is currently being made and the temp site is @ realbeisbol.com. Take a look if you want.

When posting here for a team you need to include the following:
Name
Email
Aim
How many Leagues you are in
If you own the game or not

hope to hear from some of you guys. If you have any questions you can email me (Co-Commish)@ michaelfitterer6@hotmail.com or mfitterer022886 on aim. You can aslso contact Cody Hills (Commish) through aim at BigWillis16.

Modern Relic · 10-14-2003, 02:18 PM

ey215 · 10-14-2003, 02:27 PM

I wish to preface this statement by saying that I don't know mfitterer personally and have no personal complaints with him.

I also have no reason to believe Big Willis would be involved with anything underhanded.

I only post this post to give anyone who doesn't know anything about mfitterer's history a comprehensive view of his past in this forum.

That being said, anyone thinking of joining a league with mfitterer involved in an administrative capacity may want to check out the following links:

Link 1

Link 2

Link 3

Link 4

Please feel free to draw your own conclusions.

Delgadodawg · 10-14-2003, 03:26 PM

Damn! Atlanta is already taken.

mfitterer1 · 10-14-2003, 04:01 PM

EY215, I thank you for handling that as professionally as I could think of as possible, it means a great deal to me that you put the threads out there for them to make their OWN judgements, and you didnt force your opinion on anyone and didnt do anything than present them with some things to look at. I appreciate it greatly.

marc · 10-14-2003, 05:06 PM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Modern Relic
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Indeed

jpenn44 · 10-14-2003, 06:55 PM

The Braves are already taken or I would of joined.

I'll definitely will have to watch the league to see how this turns out.

Curious, are the commishes going to have teams in the league?

mfitterer1 · 10-14-2003, 07:45 PM

yes we both have teams in the league, but there has been set up a fail proof system so that nobody, commishses included have a way of cheating.

clarnzz · 10-14-2003, 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mfitterer1
yes we both have teams in the league, but there has been set up a fail proof system so that nobody, commishses included have a way of cheating.

Interesting, care to expand on the fool proof system?

mfitterer1 · 10-14-2003, 08:01 PM

ok, we will be having 3 league files on the site at all times, the beginning roster set, the one from the sim before and the current league file, so that anyone who wants can check at any time to see for their own seoves that there was no ratings changes or anything.

Big Willis 16 · 10-14-2003, 08:25 PM

I've had my site sitting around lately, and while I sitll have 8 or 9 months left on it. I want to use it. So I figured I'd start a league. Mfitterer does have a bad reputation from before, but I will ALWAYS have a previous file from the sim before, to make sure none of his teams ratings change or what not.

This will be a great league, and we want to get it started as soon as possible.

Get them teams now

clarnzz · 10-14-2003, 09:49 PM

How would this fail proof system prevent say a commish running a sim multiple times until he was happy with the results? Or preventing someone in the league from creating an alter-ego, controlling multiple teams and making a questionable trade or two to load up one of them?

Is this league going to be in replay mode since no ratings from the orginal file are expected to change?

Just curious on some details.

Big Willis 16 · 10-14-2003, 09:53 PM

It's not necessarily to prevent owners in a league from cheating. MFitterer has a TERRIBLE reputation of being a cheater, so the goal of having all three league files on there, is so everyone knows hes not messing with the ratings like people thought he was before.

Simming multiple times shows up, as it did before when MFitterer got caught, so I believe that rules it out. Unless theres another way to do it, that he was doing wrong.

mfitterer1 · 10-14-2003, 09:55 PM

The main accusation that was brought up was that of "changing ratingsto better the team" so that will be impossible to do, the other things could not be stopped but if they are sniffed out by anyone then that person will be removed from the league. Me and BigWillis have equal power so I can remove him and he can remove me if we suspect the other of cheating, granted there needs to be some proof and the person in question would have to explain...............

anyways, no this wont be a replay league we would have the beginning file up so that everyone can see how much a certain player went up since we started the league.

If you have any more questions ask away.

clarnzz · 10-14-2003, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by mfitterer1
The main accusation that was brought up was that of "changing ratingsto better the team" so that will be impossible to do.

Couldn't a commish just boost up a player's ratings during the sim and then edit them back down to normal when it was over thusfore not showing up in the file?

mfitterer1 · 10-14-2003, 10:54 PM

I guess you could, but it doesnt matter because I know there will be NO cheating in this league.

clarnzz · 10-14-2003, 11:07 PM

So basically there is no fail proof system and it just comes down to trust.

Big Willis 16 · 10-14-2003, 11:08 PM

Is it necessary to come on here and bash our league, making gm's not want to sign up? Give it a chance man.

He's had a bad past, sure. But no one ever proved anything on him, and this could and hopefully will turn into a great sim with the help of the GM's.

clarnzz · 10-14-2003, 11:15 PM

I'm not trying to bash anyone, the fail proof system he spoke of interested me is all.

Jeremy Weimer · 10-14-2003, 11:32 PM

Good luck with the league.

10-14-2003, 01:28 PM	#1
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	Real Beisbol Starting Up, Needs Dedicated Owners A friend of mine is starting a league called Real Besibol, I am the site designer, we are looking for active and committed owners that own ootp5. The league is a modern day league with rocco's roster set from the waiver wire, and we have no salary cap, dh in both leagues and a contraction draft. Once the league fills up we will have a acontraction draft based on this yr's regular season records. We have contracted the following teams: BAL, DET, MON, PIT, MIL, COL The teams that are taken are: FLA, CHC, ATL, OAK, BOS All other teams are open, please post here if you are interested in joining. The site is currently being made and the temp site is @ realbeisbol.com. Take a look if you want. When posting here for a team you need to include the following: Name Email Aim How many Leagues you are in If you own the game or not hope to hear from some of you guys. If you have any questions you can email me (Co-Commish)@ michaelfitterer6@hotmail.com or mfitterer022886 on aim. You can aslso contact Cody Hills (Commish) through aim at BigWillis16. Last edited by mfitterer1; 10-14-2003 at 01:30 PM.

10-14-2003, 02:18 PM	#2
Modern Relic All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,266	__________________ American Folklore Baseball League (closed): Commissioner/GM - Mudville Nine (ruled!) Former member of Boys of Summer: GM - St. Louis Browns (doormats!) Former member of the OTBL: GM - Gashouse Gorillas (also ruled!) "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

10-14-2003, 02:27 PM	#3
ey215 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Woodstock, GA Posts: 581	I wish to preface this statement by saying that I don't know mfitterer personally and have no personal complaints with him. I also have no reason to believe Big Willis would be involved with anything underhanded. I only post this post to give anyone who doesn't know anything about mfitterer's history a comprehensive view of his past in this forum. That being said, anyone thinking of joining a league with mfitterer involved in an administrative capacity may want to check out the following links: Link 1 Link 2 Link 3 Link 4 Please feel free to draw your own conclusions. __________________ "It is a haunted game in which every player is measured against the ghosts of all who have gone before. Most of all, it is about time and timelessness, speed and grace, failure and loss, imperishable hope - and coming home." Ken Burns, Baseball

10-14-2003, 05:06 PM	#6
marc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 7,505	[QUOTE]Originally posted by Modern Relic [/QUOTE Indeed __________________

10-14-2003, 06:55 PM	#7
jpenn44 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 81	Darn The Braves are already taken or I would of joined. I'll definitely will have to watch the league to see how this turns out. Curious, are the commishes going to have teams in the league?

10-14-2003, 03:26 PM	#4
Delgadodawg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Vancouver Posts: 800	Damn! Atlanta is already taken.

10-14-2003, 04:01 PM	#5
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	EY215, I thank you for handling that as professionally as I could think of as possible, it means a great deal to me that you put the threads out there for them to make their OWN judgements, and you didnt force your opinion on anyone and didnt do anything than present them with some things to look at. I appreciate it greatly.

10-14-2003, 07:45 PM	#8
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	yes we both have teams in the league, but there has been set up a fail proof system so that nobody, commishses included have a way of cheating.

10-14-2003, 08:01 PM	#10
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	ok, we will be having 3 league files on the site at all times, the beginning roster set, the one from the sim before and the current league file, so that anyone who wants can check at any time to see for their own seoves that there was no ratings changes or anything.

10-14-2003, 08:25 PM	#11
Big Willis 16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,616	I've had my site sitting around lately, and while I sitll have 8 or 9 months left on it. I want to use it. So I figured I'd start a league. Mfitterer does have a bad reputation from before, but I will ALWAYS have a previous file from the sim before, to make sure none of his teams ratings change or what not. This will be a great league, and we want to get it started as soon as possible. Get them teams now __________________ A wise man once said "shutup and drink your beer!"

10-14-2003, 09:49 PM	#12
clarnzz All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Following everyone off a cliff. Posts: 1,522	How would this fail proof system prevent say a commish running a sim multiple times until he was happy with the results? Or preventing someone in the league from creating an alter-ego, controlling multiple teams and making a questionable trade or two to load up one of them? Is this league going to be in replay mode since no ratings from the orginal file are expected to change? Just curious on some details.

10-14-2003, 09:53 PM	#13
Big Willis 16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,616	It's not necessarily to prevent owners in a league from cheating. MFitterer has a TERRIBLE reputation of being a cheater, so the goal of having all three league files on there, is so everyone knows hes not messing with the ratings like people thought he was before. Simming multiple times shows up, as it did before when MFitterer got caught, so I believe that rules it out. Unless theres another way to do it, that he was doing wrong. __________________ A wise man once said "shutup and drink your beer!"

10-14-2003, 09:55 PM	#14
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	The main accusation that was brought up was that of "changing ratingsto better the team" so that will be impossible to do, the other things could not be stopped but if they are sniffed out by anyone then that person will be removed from the league. Me and BigWillis have equal power so I can remove him and he can remove me if we suspect the other of cheating, granted there needs to be some proof and the person in question would have to explain............... anyways, no this wont be a replay league we would have the beginning file up so that everyone can see how much a certain player went up since we started the league. If you have any more questions ask away.

10-14-2003, 10:54 PM	#16
mfitterer1 Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 466	I guess you could, but it doesnt matter because I know there will be NO cheating in this league.

10-14-2003, 11:07 PM	#17
clarnzz All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Following everyone off a cliff. Posts: 1,522	So basically there is no fail proof system and it just comes down to trust.

10-14-2003, 11:08 PM	#18
Big Willis 16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,616	Is it necessary to come on here and bash our league, making gm's not want to sign up? Give it a chance man. He's had a bad past, sure. But no one ever proved anything on him, and this could and hopefully will turn into a great sim with the help of the GM's. __________________ A wise man once said "shutup and drink your beer!"

10-14-2003, 11:15 PM	#19
clarnzz All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Following everyone off a cliff. Posts: 1,522	I'm not trying to bash anyone, the fail proof system he spoke of interested me is all.

10-14-2003, 11:32 PM	#20
Jeremy Weimer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,411	Good luck with the league.