Pedro=Coward

cshigh · 10-11-2003, 06:41 PM

Unbelievable to see Pedro toss Zimmer to the ground. I hate the Yankees, but I hope they destroy the Sox. P. Martinez should be suspended for the rest of the playoffs.

scoobz0202 · 10-11-2003, 06:44 PM

Coward!? He went after him first!

cshigh · 10-11-2003, 06:45 PM

Yeah, those 72 year old men are dangerous.

scoobz0202 · 10-11-2003, 06:46 PM

Who gives a ****.. he was swinging at him... Being old isn't a free pass to go after somebody and not expect them to go back

IatricSB · 10-11-2003, 06:46 PM

Pedro should have handled it better, but the fact remains that Zimmer went after him.

Carlton · 10-11-2003, 06:48 PM

I KNEW with this forum I would see someone crucifying Martinez for this...Zimmer went after him, I thought Pedro did the best available option with his OLE technique. If Zimmer was 50 this wouldn't be a big deal, but Zimmer would be ejected for going after Pedro.

Zimmer wanted to hit him and got tossed down, simple.

Now Ramirez getting pissed over a ball not even close to him well bad blood can only make for a good series

cshigh · 10-11-2003, 06:48 PM

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Originally posted by scoobz0202
Who gives a ****.. he was swinging at him... Being old isn't a free pass to go after somebody and not expect them to go back

He swings like a rusty gate.

Carlton · 10-11-2003, 06:52 PM

How could Pedro handle THAT better, I mean I am sure he was shocked as hell, as well as I would be...a 72 man coming after you, that was a reflex...and he looked totally shocked after the fact while he was backing up.

Akrobat · 10-11-2003, 06:54 PM

Calling Pedro a coward isn't right... the man came after him and swung. However, calling Pedro stupid for not handling it properly is more appropriate. Zimmer, Pedro, Garcia, and Manny were all idiots in this situation. There's not one person you can blame

AnotherAlias · 10-11-2003, 07:12 PM

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Originally posted by Carlton

Now Ramirez getting pissed over a ball not even close to him ....

I agree 100%. Ramirez was being a wussy. Clemens' pitch was nowhere near him. The catcher set up over the plate, and he raised his glove straight up, two feet, because Clemens missed high. But the pitch was nowhere near Ramirez.

What a pussy!

scoobz0202 · 10-11-2003, 07:14 PM

Manny overreacting was pretty bad. Yeah. Either he was just wanting to start something or he didn't realize it was that far away cause he looked straight down as he was moving...

Who knows.. I love this rivalry.

Old Man · 10-11-2003, 07:19 PM

Manny was looking for a fight it seems. Or was looking for a beanball pitch that did not happen. The pitch looked like it was over the plate and just high.
Manny overreacted and needs to grow a set of something.

AnotherAlias · 10-11-2003, 07:20 PM

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Originally posted by Old Man

Manny overreacted and needs to grow a set of something.

Cahones, maybe?

Old Man · 10-11-2003, 07:22 PM

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Originally posted by AnotherAlias
Cahones, maybe?

You said it, I didn't.

sixto · 10-11-2003, 07:22 PM

Ramirez AND Clemens were looking for trouble. Clemens threw that pitch as close as he dared. Clemens is the only coward here. If he had the guts that he thinks he has, he'd have plunked him.

AnotherAlias · 10-11-2003, 07:28 PM

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Originally posted by sixto
Clemens threw that pitch as close as he dared.

I'm not sure how you know this. Can you please give me the web address of your crystal ball manufacturer?

scoobz0202 · 10-11-2003, 07:30 PM

How can we be sure Pedro was saying. " I will hit you in your head. " and not, " You should use your head. "

You seem to have it all figured out.

sixto · 10-11-2003, 07:30 PM

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Originally posted by AnotherAlias
I'm not sure how you know this. Can you please give me the web address of your crystal ball manufacturer?

I don't need a crystal ball, only common sense. Clemens registered his displeasure at the umps chopping his dick off regarding the retaliation for hitting Garcia. The kind of guy who would throw a broken bat at someone is the kind of guy who can't back away without getting some sort of shot in.

Pedro and Clemens mean to hit a batter probably 80% of the time that they do. These guys have legendary command and legendarily hot heads.

AnotherAlias · 10-11-2003, 07:34 PM

We all know who started this. Pedro. Hitting Garcia and nearly taking his head off. Careers get ruined, and it's dangerous.

Manny was being a pussy. Clemens' pitch wasn't even close. He was clearly trying to persuade an umpire into thinking Clemens was throwing at him, and clearly he was not.

Pedro's an ass.
Clemens is an idiot.
Ramirez is a pussy.
Zimmer is a fireplug.
Glanville is clutch.

scoobz0202 · 10-11-2003, 07:36 PM

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Originally posted by AnotherAlias
Glanville is clutch.

You can say that again

And oh yeah.. Pedro's ball slipped when he hit Garcia

10-11-2003, 06:41 PM	#1
cshigh All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ludlow, KY Posts: 508	Pedro=Coward Unbelievable to see Pedro toss Zimmer to the ground. I hate the Yankees, but I hope they destroy the Sox. P. Martinez should be suspended for the rest of the playoffs.

10-11-2003, 06:46 PM	#5
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	Pedro should have handled it better, but the fact remains that Zimmer went after him. __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

10-11-2003, 06:48 PM	#6
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	I KNEW with this forum I would see someone crucifying Martinez for this...Zimmer went after him, I thought Pedro did the best available option with his OLE technique. If Zimmer was 50 this wouldn't be a big deal, but Zimmer would be ejected for going after Pedro. Zimmer wanted to hit him and got tossed down, simple. Now Ramirez getting pissed over a ball not even close to him well bad blood can only make for a good series __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

10-11-2003, 06:52 PM	#8
Carlton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 3,765	How could Pedro handle THAT better, I mean I am sure he was shocked as hell, as well as I would be...a 72 man coming after you, that was a reflex...and he looked totally shocked after the fact while he was backing up. __________________ "I am at that stage of my life where I keep myself out of arguments. I am 100% self sufficient spiritually, emotionally & financially. Even if you say 1+1=5, you are ABSOLUTELY CORRECT. Enjoy!"

10-11-2003, 06:54 PM	#9
Akrobat All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 922	Calling Pedro a coward isn't right... the man came after him and swung. However, calling Pedro stupid for not handling it properly is more appropriate. Zimmer, Pedro, Garcia, and Manny were all idiots in this situation. There's not one person you can blame __________________ Writers-Bloc -- Boston Saints -1990: Player to be Announced

10-11-2003, 06:44 PM	#2
scoobz0202 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Celina, Ohio Posts: 969	Coward!? He went after him first!

10-11-2003, 06:45 PM	#3
cshigh All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Ludlow, KY Posts: 508	Yeah, those 72 year old men are dangerous.

10-11-2003, 07:14 PM	#11
scoobz0202 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Celina, Ohio Posts: 969	Manny overreacting was pretty bad. Yeah. Either he was just wanting to start something or he didn't realize it was that far away cause he looked straight down as he was moving... Who knows.. I love this rivalry.

10-11-2003, 07:19 PM	#12
Old Man Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 464	Manny was looking for a fight it seems. Or was looking for a beanball pitch that did not happen. The pitch looked like it was over the plate and just high. Manny overreacted and needs to grow a set of something. __________________ Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything. ~Toby Harrah, 1983 "All the fat guys watch me and say to their wives, 'See, there's a fat guy doing okay. Bring me another beer.'" -Mickey Lolich

10-11-2003, 07:22 PM	#15
sixto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,262	Ramirez AND Clemens were looking for trouble. Clemens threw that pitch as close as he dared. Clemens is the only coward here. If he had the guts that he thinks he has, he'd have plunked him.

10-11-2003, 07:30 PM	#17
scoobz0202 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Celina, Ohio Posts: 969	How can we be sure Pedro was saying. " I will hit you in your head. " and not, " You should use your head. " You seem to have it all figured out.

10-11-2003, 07:34 PM	#19
AnotherAlias Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm back...for now Posts: 4,190	We all know who started this. Pedro. Hitting Garcia and nearly taking his head off. Careers get ruined, and it's dangerous. Manny was being a pussy. Clemens' pitch wasn't even close. He was clearly trying to persuade an umpire into thinking Clemens was throwing at him, and clearly he was not. Pedro's an ass. Clemens is an idiot. Ramirez is a pussy. Zimmer is a fireplug. Glanville is clutch.