Bug in trading?

Matt Mower · 03-04-2002, 10:41 AM

Twice now I've tried to complete a trade and gotten the comment "We cannot afford the contracts of the offered players" when it seemed rather wierd.

In one case I was offering a prospect on a Minor League Contract for a $4m salaried player. Now it might have been a bad trade but that shouldn't have been the stated reason.

The second time I saw this was when the money was around $350,000 for the player I was offering, against $3,000,000 for the player I wanted.

I noticed that they had only about $328,000 cash available. It seems like the AI was deciding it couldn't afford my player without calculating what it would save on not paying the player it was trading.

Regards,

matt

OOTP4.0 (unpatched)
Dell Inspiron 4000 [384Mb, 700Mhz PIII, Win2KSP2]
New non-challenge league
Rolen's roster

bbo4 · 03-04-2002, 10:46 AM

The AI determines how much cash is available from it's expected earnings for the next year I believe. It's kind of a pain in the a$$ but it prevents from dumping high salary players in trades for low salaries. I like it because when I get aggravated with a high priced player he is tough to get rid of.

Matt Mower · 03-04-2002, 11:11 AM

[quote]Originally posted by bbo4:
<strong>The AI determines how much cash is available from it's expected earnings for the next year I believe. It's kind of a pain in the a$$ but it prevents from dumping high salary players in trades for low salaries. I like it because when I get aggravated with a high priced player he is tough to get rid of.</strong><hr></blockquote>

But that does not appear to be what I'm seeing:

I'm taking a high salary player off the AI's hands in return for a player with a very low salary (less than 10%).

The AI's salary costs come down if he makes this trade. If he can afford to pay the player he has over the next year I don't understand how he cannot afford to pay a player with 1/10th the salary instead.

Yet, he's the one telling me he cannot afford the cost of the new player. It doesn't make sense to me.

Regards,

matt

hellfrozeover · 03-04-2002, 01:15 PM

I agree with that, If I'm offering to take an old, overpaid player off the other teams hands, in exchange for a minor league player with no salary, I should be able to do it.

Markus Heinsohn · 03-04-2002, 01:42 PM

This should be fixed in OOTP 4a... please send me a mail if it isn't!

Matt Mower · 03-04-2002, 01:53 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Markus,Developer:
<strong>This should be fixed in OOTP 4a... please send me a mail if it isn't!</strong><hr></blockquote>

Okay my quick test of this is that I now get

"Thats a really bad offer"

which is much more what I expected

However I can't be sure the circumstances were exactly the same so I'll keep testing it as I go.

Thanks,

matt

03-04-2002, 10:41 AM	#1
Matt Mower Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London Posts: 34	Bug in trading? Twice now I've tried to complete a trade and gotten the comment "We cannot afford the contracts of the offered players" when it seemed rather wierd. In one case I was offering a prospect on a Minor League Contract for a $4m salaried player. Now it might have been a bad trade but that shouldn't have been the stated reason. The second time I saw this was when the money was around $350,000 for the player I was offering, against $3,000,000 for the player I wanted. I noticed that they had only about $328,000 cash available. It seems like the AI was deciding it couldn't afford my player without calculating what it would save on not paying the player it was trading. Regards, matt OOTP4.0 (unpatched) Dell Inspiron 4000 [384Mb, 700Mhz PIII, Win2KSP2] New non-challenge league Rolen's roster

03-04-2002, 10:46 AM	#2
bbo4 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: South of Boston, Ma Posts: 214	The AI determines how much cash is available from it's expected earnings for the next year I believe. It's kind of a pain in the a$$ but it prevents from dumping high salary players in trades for low salaries. I like it because when I get aggravated with a high priced player he is tough to get rid of. __________________ "In 1962 I was named Minor League Player of the Year. It was my second season in the Bigs."

03-04-2002, 01:15 PM	#4
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	I agree with that, If I'm offering to take an old, overpaid player off the other teams hands, in exchange for a minor league player with no salary, I should be able to do it. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs

03-04-2002, 01:42 PM	#5
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	This should be fixed in OOTP 4a... please send me a mail if it isn't! __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

03-04-2002, 11:11 AM	#3
Matt Mower Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London Posts: 34	[quote]Originally posted by bbo4: <strong>The AI determines how much cash is available from it's expected earnings for the next year I believe. It's kind of a pain in the a$$ but it prevents from dumping high salary players in trades for low salaries. I like it because when I get aggravated with a high priced player he is tough to get rid of.</strong><hr></blockquote> But that does not appear to be what I'm seeing: I'm taking a high salary player off the AI's hands in return for a player with a very low salary (less than 10%). The AI's salary costs come down if he makes this trade. If he can afford to pay the player he has over the next year I don't understand how he cannot afford to pay a player with 1/10th the salary instead. Yet, he's the one telling me he cannot afford the cost of the new player. It doesn't make sense to me. Regards, matt

03-04-2002, 01:53 PM	#6
Matt Mower Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: London Posts: 34	[quote]Originally posted by Markus,Developer: <strong>This should be fixed in OOTP 4a... please send me a mail if it isn't!</strong><hr></blockquote> Okay my quick test of this is that I now get "Thats a really bad offer" which is much more what I expected However I can't be sure the circumstances were exactly the same so I'll keep testing it as I go. Thanks, matt