Giles to Padres is official

CommishJoe · 08-26-2003, 04:49 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1603146

I'm actually suprised no one put a waiver claim on him. Then again, I suppose they would figure they were just delaying the inevitable.

draven085 · 08-26-2003, 04:55 PM

They didn't get Nady in the deal? I guess they couldn't convince SD to take Kendall either. Too bad. At least he didn't go to the Yankees like I thought he would.

LivnLegend · 08-26-2003, 05:08 PM

I am trying to figure out if the Padres paid more or less than what the Pirates were rumored to be asking from the Dodgers in July. The report then was that the Pirates wanted Odalis Perez and one of either of LA's top pitching prospects. Instead, they got another pitcher with initials O.P. (Oliver Perez), a prospect I am not familiar with, and a player to be named. Odalis seems to have more upside then Oliver although Oliver is three years younger.

Giles has been a heck of a hitter for some bad teams but enters next year as a 33 year old.

JerseyPride · 08-26-2003, 05:11 PM

I bet the fact that Kendall wasnt in the deal must upset alot of gm's. Since they were saying if you want Giles you must also take Kendall. I'm sure if it was just Giles involved more managers would of made a run for him.

Specs · 08-26-2003, 05:12 PM

There aren't that many teams below San Diego on the priority list... at least I don't think...

AngelinOF · 08-26-2003, 05:29 PM

San Diego had the number 1 waiver priorty when Giles was "waived" (not exactly sure why Detroit was not at the top of the list, unless perhaps they had just already said they had no plans of putting in a claim for Giles) because it was constantly mentioned that even if a deal wasn't worked out by July 31st then he probably still would be traded since SD had first dibs on a waiver claim.

Specs · 08-26-2003, 05:36 PM

Detroit couldn't afford Giles what with Higginson clogging up their payroll

SoxWin · 08-26-2003, 05:40 PM

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Originally posted by AngelinOF
San Diego had the number 1 waiver priorty when Giles was "waived" (not exactly sure why Detroit was not at the top of the list, unless perhaps they had just already said they had no plans of putting in a claim for Giles) because it was constantly mentioned that even if a deal wasn't worked out by July 31st then he probably still would be traded since SD had first dibs on a waiver claim.

My understanding is that he would be waived through the NL first, then the AL since he's being waived by an NL team. Detroit would have had first chance in the AL but obviously Giles didn't make it that far.

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I bet the fact that Kendall wasnt in the deal must upset alot of gm's. Since they were saying if you want Giles you must also take Kendall. I'm sure if it was just Giles involved more managers would of made a run for him.

And I'd bet that with Kendall in the deal Pittsburgh nets next to nothing in return. Why on earth would anyone give up useful prospects when you get Kendall the Albatross?

Rich

CommishJoe · 08-26-2003, 05:50 PM

SoxWin is correct (man, that's hard to say about a Red Sox fan

). Teams in the same league as the waived player have priority.

fluharty · 08-26-2003, 06:41 PM

Jason Bay looks pretty good. Has power both power and speed and has a 400 OBP in the PCL.

GForce22 · 08-26-2003, 06:56 PM

Bay is an excellent pickup in this deal. Not bad work by the Pirates here. They surely wouldn't have gotten these guys if Kendall was included. Better, given the Pirates situation, to get the prospects back and suck up having Kendall back there for as long as you have to.

GH

fluharty · 08-26-2003, 07:01 PM

Kendall has said in the past that if Giles is traded he wants to be traded. Hopefully, he is smart enough to understand that he will HAVE to renegatiate that insane contract if he wants to be moved.

GForce22 · 08-26-2003, 07:05 PM

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Originally posted by fluharty
Kendall has said in the past that if Giles is traded he wants to be traded. Hopefully, he is smart enough to understand that he will HAVE to renegatiate that insane contract if he wants to be moved.

And the players union will fight this with all they have.

GH

SoxWin · 08-26-2003, 07:06 PM

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Originally posted by fluharty
Jason Bay looks pretty good. Has power both power and speed and has a 400 OBP in the PCL.

I'm sure he's good and all but do keep in mind the PCL is a HUGE hitters league

GForce22 · 08-26-2003, 07:24 PM

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Originally posted by SoxWin
I'm sure he's good and all but do keep in mind the PCL is a HUGE hitters league

True, but he's hit at every level in the minors, starting in the Midwest league in 2001 through his run in the Mets system last year in both the Florida State and Eastern Leagues.

I think he's solid. Don't expect Giles-lite, but I think he'll hit.

GH

LivnLegend · 08-26-2003, 07:35 PM

Part II of the deal is done...

http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/6593937

Rondell White to the Royals for 2 minor leaguers

Duncan Idaho · 08-26-2003, 08:12 PM

Giles will definately be a welcome addition to the Padres I think.His offense is something SD needs but there not going anywhere.They'll could end up just trading him anyway next year for pitching.

Draft Dodger · 08-26-2003, 08:39 PM

Tony Gwynn says "On the Pirates' side of this deal, it looks like they're trying to unload salary"

uh, thanks Tony.

GForce22 · 08-26-2003, 08:41 PM

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Originally posted by Draft Dodger
Tony Gwynn says "On the Pirates' side of this deal, it looks like they're trying to unload salary"

uh, thanks Tony.

From the Sugar Ray Leonard school of analysis

"Well you know Jim, you can't win the fight if you don't throw no punches."

GH

MannyTrillo · 08-26-2003, 09:02 PM

It does look like the Pirates got some value, but does anyone else find it a little hard to believe that they couldn't have done better for Giles, one of the better hitters in the game?

08-26-2003, 04:49 PM	#1
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	Giles to Padres is official http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=1603146 I'm actually suprised no one put a waiver claim on him. Then again, I suppose they would figure they were just delaying the inevitable. __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

08-26-2003, 05:08 PM	#3
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	I am trying to figure out if the Padres paid more or less than what the Pirates were rumored to be asking from the Dodgers in July. The report then was that the Pirates wanted Odalis Perez and one of either of LA's top pitching prospects. Instead, they got another pitcher with initials O.P. (Oliver Perez), a prospect I am not familiar with, and a player to be named. Odalis seems to have more upside then Oliver although Oliver is three years younger. Giles has been a heck of a hitter for some bad teams but enters next year as a 33 year old. __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

08-26-2003, 05:11 PM	#4
JerseyPride All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dirtay Jerzey Posts: 951	I bet the fact that Kendall wasnt in the deal must upset alot of gm's. Since they were saying if you want Giles you must also take Kendall. I'm sure if it was just Giles involved more managers would of made a run for him. __________________ "I guess you could call the Yanks my daddys." -Pedro Martinez

08-26-2003, 05:50 PM	#9
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	SoxWin is correct (man, that's hard to say about a Red Sox fan ). Teams in the same league as the waived player have priority. __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

08-26-2003, 07:35 PM	#16
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Part II of the deal is done... http://cbs.sportsline.com/mlb/story/6593937 Rondell White to the Royals for 2 minor leaguers __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

08-26-2003, 04:55 PM	#2
draven085 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: New Jersey Posts: 2,074	They didn't get Nady in the deal? I guess they couldn't convince SD to take Kendall either. Too bad. At least he didn't go to the Yankees like I thought he would.

08-26-2003, 05:29 PM	#6
AngelinOF All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,353	San Diego had the number 1 waiver priorty when Giles was "waived" (not exactly sure why Detroit was not at the top of the list, unless perhaps they had just already said they had no plans of putting in a claim for Giles) because it was constantly mentioned that even if a deal wasn't worked out by July 31st then he probably still would be traded since SD had first dibs on a waiver claim.

08-26-2003, 06:41 PM	#10
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	Jason Bay looks pretty good. Has power both power and speed and has a 400 OBP in the PCL.

08-26-2003, 06:56 PM	#11
GForce22 Banned Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Long Island, NY Posts: 2,654	Bay is an excellent pickup in this deal. Not bad work by the Pirates here. They surely wouldn't have gotten these guys if Kendall was included. Better, given the Pirates situation, to get the prospects back and suck up having Kendall back there for as long as you have to. GH

08-26-2003, 07:01 PM	#12
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	Kendall has said in the past that if Giles is traded he wants to be traded. Hopefully, he is smart enough to understand that he will HAVE to renegatiate that insane contract if he wants to be moved.

08-26-2003, 08:12 PM	#17
Duncan Idaho Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: USA Posts: 51	Giles will definately be a welcome addition to the Padres I think.His offense is something SD needs but there not going anywhere.They'll could end up just trading him anyway next year for pitching.

08-26-2003, 08:39 PM	#18
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	Tony Gwynn says "On the Pirates' side of this deal, it looks like they're trying to unload salary" uh, thanks Tony. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

08-26-2003, 09:02 PM	#20
MannyTrillo All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 664	It does look like the Pirates got some value, but does anyone else find it a little hard to believe that they couldn't have done better for Giles, one of the better hitters in the game? __________________ Poster emeritus "Not butchery, dining!!" obt sk cmh ct President, A-1 Aces OT Posting Club Click here to join