Fan Loyalty Question

spleen1015 · 08-03-2003, 08:38 PM

I have been a Baltimore Orioles fan since I became interested in baseball in '86. Of all of the teams I root for, the Orioles are the only team that hasn't won a Championship while I have been fan. Being realistic, I know that the Orioles have a lot of work to do to get to a championship, if they ever do.

I get the Postgame e-mails from mlb.com letting me know what has gone on with today's game. It's a neat feature. As some of you may alreadcy know, the O's beat the Red Sox Friday and Saturday. When I have seen the postgame e-mails from mlb.com showing me this, it made me mad. Why? Because the Red Sox are the only team with a chance to win the AL East other than the damn Yankees. So, I was bothered that the Red Sox were losing to my team because I want someone else other than the Yankees to go somewhere. I would honestly take 100 years of Orioles losing if it meant that the Yankees wouldn't make the playoffs those same 100 years.

So, my question to you guys is...

Would you root against your favorite team in a case like this?

jaxmagicman · 08-03-2003, 08:47 PM

I would. I would root against the Yankees in any way I could, the Orioles have no chance of knocking the Yankees out of the Playoff run, so you might as well root for a team that can. So yes you should be rooting against the Orioles in this situation. It may hurt but it would feel so much better if the Yankees don't make the playoffs. Especially after their fast start and all the Damn Yankee fans down here saying "This is the Best Yankee team ever."

jaxmagicman · 08-03-2003, 08:47 PM

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Tarin · 08-03-2003, 08:50 PM

Hell no.

I'm a devil rays fan. I'm one of the only Devil Ray fans I know. I hate the yankees as much as anyone. But I would ALWAYS rather see my team win, than the other team lose.

matskralc · 08-03-2003, 10:38 PM

I became a baseball fan during the Pirates' 1990-1992 stretch of NLCS losses. 1992 broke my heart (I was in third grade at the time), and ever since then, I have had a seething hatred for the Atlanta Braves. But even still, I will not root for the Mets or the Expos or the Phillies or the Marlins (in the rare instances that they have a shot at beating out the Braves) when they are playing against the Pirates. I root for my Buccos first.

On a related note, even when the Pirates are hopelessly out of the division race (this usually only takes a week or two into the year), I continue to root against the Pirates' division foes, except for when they play Atlanta, although I have found myself slower to make that committment lately, as the Pirates just keep hanging on the fringe (8-10 games back, just one 5 or 6 game winning streak away from being right back in it). Also, I hate the Yankees as much as the next guy, but when the Braves and Yankees played in the World Series, I was a Yankees fan.

Dwolfson20 · 08-03-2003, 11:19 PM

Nope, I would never root against my own team.

Oh, and I share your Braves hatred. I'd much rather see the Yankees win the World Series.

Bronx Bomber 15 · 08-03-2003, 11:59 PM

Stay Loyal, spleen.
As a die hard Yankee fan I can honestly say: this is NOT the best Yankee team ever and I don't see us winning the World Series, I'd be surprised if we made it there at all (playoffs, yes. WS, no). I hate to say it, but I don't see it. I'd love to see the Astros go all the way.

PotatoPeeler · 08-04-2003, 09:44 AM

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Originally posted by matskralc
I became a baseball fan during the Pirates' 1990-1992 stretch of NLCS losses. 1992 broke my heart (I was in third grade at the time), and ever since then, I have had a seething hatred for the Atlanta Braves.

Game 7. Best.Game.Ever.

PotatoPeeler · 08-04-2003, 09:46 AM

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Originally posted by Dwolfson20

Oh, and I share your Braves hatred. I'd much rather see the Yankees win the World Series.

You guys are just jealous.

LivnLegend · 08-04-2003, 11:23 AM

I would never root against the Dodgers.

I would never root for the Giants in any situation, in any series, against any other team.

Gastric ReFlux · 08-04-2003, 11:26 AM

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I would never root against the Dodgers.

Would you root past the 7th inning?

AnotherAlias · 08-04-2003, 11:31 AM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
Would you root past the 7th inning?

Sure, he would.

From his car, with the radio on, stuck in traffic.

ctorg · 08-04-2003, 12:32 PM

As a Mets fan, I can sympathize with having a favorite team that hasn't got a shot at the postseason. I can honestly say that I'd rather see the other guys beat the Mets if it meant the Braves wouldn't win the division. I mean, the Mets are going nowhere anyway, so I might as well just root against the Braves.

Gastric ReFlux · 08-04-2003, 12:34 PM

Yeah, I would rather have the Dodgers than the Braves in the postseason.

Eric · 08-04-2003, 12:36 PM

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Originally posted by LivnLegend
I would never root against the Dodgers.

I would never root for the Giants in any situation, in any series, against any other team.

LL, switch the teams and that's me. What kills me was that Kirk Gibson hit that stupid homer in Game 1 of the World Series on my 22nd birthday!

worst.birthday.ever

PotatoPeeler · 08-04-2003, 01:07 PM

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Originally posted by Gastric ReFlux
Would you root past the 7th inning?

Or before the 3rd?

Crapshoot · 08-04-2003, 02:10 PM

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Originally posted by Eric
LL, switch the teams and that's me. What kills me was that Kirk Gibson hit that stupid homer in Game 1 of the World Series on my 22nd birthday!

worst.birthday.ever

Me as well- rooting for the Dodgers is like rooting for Syd Thrift...

Id root for the Yanks over the Dodgers...

H.P. Lovecraft · 08-04-2003, 02:18 PM

I don't think I could root against the Red Sox.

PotatoPeeler · 08-04-2003, 02:30 PM

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Originally posted by Aadik
Me as well- rooting for the Dodgers is like rooting for Syd Thrift...

Id root for the Yanks over the Dodgers...

I'm the same way with the Mets and the D-backs. Gawd, do I despise that D-backs organization. Maybe even more so than the Mets.

KurtBevacqua · 08-04-2003, 03:34 PM

I'm a lifelong Indians fan. My memory of the Tribe goes as far back as the Gaylord Perry days. I would never, ever root against the Indians no matter who they are playing. While I do hate the Yankees so, I would never root for someone contending with them to beat the Indians.

But if the Indians were in contention again, I might root for the Yankees if they were playing one of our rivals for the division. It would be very difficult doing it, but I would.

And I have to say there is nothing more painful to watch than a Yankees-Dodgers series. In the late 70's it was the only time in my life I rooted for the Dodgers.

08-03-2003, 08:38 PM	#1
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,008	Fan Loyalty Question I have been a Baltimore Orioles fan since I became interested in baseball in '86. Of all of the teams I root for, the Orioles are the only team that hasn't won a Championship while I have been fan. Being realistic, I know that the Orioles have a lot of work to do to get to a championship, if they ever do. I get the Postgame e-mails from mlb.com letting me know what has gone on with today's game. It's a neat feature. As some of you may alreadcy know, the O's beat the Red Sox Friday and Saturday. When I have seen the postgame e-mails from mlb.com showing me this, it made me mad. Why? Because the Red Sox are the only team with a chance to win the AL East other than the damn Yankees. So, I was bothered that the Red Sox were losing to my team because I want someone else other than the Yankees to go somewhere. I would honestly take 100 years of Orioles losing if it meant that the Yankees wouldn't make the playoffs those same 100 years. So, my question to you guys is... Would you root against your favorite team in a case like this?

08-03-2003, 08:47 PM	#2
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	I would. I would root against the Yankees in any way I could, the Orioles have no chance of knocking the Yankees out of the Playoff run, so you might as well root for a team that can. So yes you should be rooting against the Orioles in this situation. It may hurt but it would feel so much better if the Yankees don't make the playoffs. Especially after their fast start and all the Damn Yankee fans down here saying "This is the Best Yankee team ever." __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

08-03-2003, 08:47 PM	#3
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08-03-2003, 08:50 PM	#4
Tarin Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: J-Ville Posts: 325	Hell no. I'm a devil rays fan. I'm one of the only Devil Ray fans I know. I hate the yankees as much as anyone. But I would ALWAYS rather see my team win, than the other team lose. __________________ T

08-03-2003, 11:19 PM	#6
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	Nope, I would never root against my own team. Oh, and I share your Braves hatred. I'd much rather see the Yankees win the World Series. __________________

08-03-2003, 10:38 PM	#5
matskralc Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,076	I became a baseball fan during the Pirates' 1990-1992 stretch of NLCS losses. 1992 broke my heart (I was in third grade at the time), and ever since then, I have had a seething hatred for the Atlanta Braves. But even still, I will not root for the Mets or the Expos or the Phillies or the Marlins (in the rare instances that they have a shot at beating out the Braves) when they are playing against the Pirates. I root for my Buccos first. On a related note, even when the Pirates are hopelessly out of the division race (this usually only takes a week or two into the year), I continue to root against the Pirates' division foes, except for when they play Atlanta, although I have found myself slower to make that committment lately, as the Pirates just keep hanging on the fringe (8-10 games back, just one 5 or 6 game winning streak away from being right back in it). Also, I hate the Yankees as much as the next guy, but when the Braves and Yankees played in the World Series, I was a Yankees fan.

08-03-2003, 11:59 PM	#7
Bronx Bomber 15 All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: A house in the wooded mountains Posts: 939	Stay Loyal, spleen. As a die hard Yankee fan I can honestly say: this is NOT the best Yankee team ever and I don't see us winning the World Series, I'd be surprised if we made it there at all (playoffs, yes. WS, no). I hate to say it, but I don't see it. I'd love to see the Astros go all the way. __________________ Fightsimsplus.com Fightsims Facebook Page Fightsims on X

08-04-2003, 11:23 AM	#10
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	I would never root against the Dodgers. I would never root for the Giants in any situation, in any series, against any other team. __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

08-04-2003, 12:32 PM	#13
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	As a Mets fan, I can sympathize with having a favorite team that hasn't got a shot at the postseason. I can honestly say that I'd rather see the other guys beat the Mets if it meant the Braves wouldn't win the division. I mean, the Mets are going nowhere anyway, so I might as well just root against the Braves. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

08-04-2003, 12:34 PM	#14
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Yeah, I would rather have the Dodgers than the Braves in the postseason.

08-04-2003, 02:18 PM	#18
H.P. Lovecraft Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Arkham, MA Posts: 73	I don't think I could root against the Red Sox.

08-04-2003, 03:34 PM	#20
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	I'm a lifelong Indians fan. My memory of the Tribe goes as far back as the Gaylord Perry days. I would never, ever root against the Indians no matter who they are playing. While I do hate the Yankees so, I would never root for someone contending with them to beat the Indians. But if the Indians were in contention again, I might root for the Yankees if they were playing one of our rivals for the division. It would be very difficult doing it, but I would. And I have to say there is nothing more painful to watch than a Yankees-Dodgers series. In the late 70's it was the only time in my life I rooted for the Dodgers. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner