Why I hate this game

ATypicalGiantsFan · 06-08-2003, 09:10 PM

In manager mode, I just had another child. This seems to be cause for celebration, but not for me. It was my 4th girl. I want a boy that plays baseball. Why else would I have a kid. Can this be fixed in the patch

Who cares about trade AI when I can't have a boy.

John C · 06-08-2003, 09:51 PM

It's King Henry syndrome. Have the woman beheaded!

-John

PSUColonel · 06-08-2003, 11:43 PM

To be honest, I just feel this whole aspect of the game is unnecessary, and corny. I think efforts would be better served elsewhere.

clarnzz · 06-09-2003, 12:01 AM

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Originally posted by PSUColonel
To be honest, I just feel this whole aspect of the game is unnecessary, and corny. I think efforts would be better served elsewhere.

Couldn't find anyone to make any babies with ya, eh?

HolyCow98 · 06-09-2003, 12:05 AM

Yeah, this feature isn't really for everyone....

Markus or Steve had said in the past that the code for this feature was not time consuming at all. Not sure what that meant as far as hours/days.

I also think that this was something that Markus wanted to put in partially for his one reasons, not so much as selling point. (IE Almanac)

pallison14 · 06-09-2003, 12:22 AM

I thought it was going to be something that I wouldn't care for, but I've actually come to enjoy it a bit. Our of 6 kids, I've only had 1 boy -- and he looked like he was going to be a monster.

I also like the fact that I'm a 63 year old man dating a 23 year old. That's what happens when your wife of 30 some odd years up and leaves ya.

twins15 · 06-09-2003, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by PSUColonel
To be honest, I just feel this whole aspect of the game is unnecessary, and corny. I think efforts would be better served elsewhere.

Going with what holycow said, when he first said that this was going to be in the game, a lot of people were like this. But Markus said it was really easy to put in. Also, if you do not like it, you don't need to play in manager mode.

MrWorkrate · 06-09-2003, 12:34 AM

Not that I know the code that Markus is using, but something like the manager mode's "personal" aspects aren't complex enough to take much time. Things are pretty much determined randomly, from the age and name of the woman entering your life, whether or not the woman wants to marry you, whether they leave, if they want to have children, the sex of the children, and whether or not they end up being prospects. They all seem like relatively simple random factors that have a certain percentage of success and failure, and are unaffected by outside forces (such as winning or losing, age, etc). I could be off base, but I don't think it's something that Markus set out to develop (as other features may have been), but somthing that with a few tweaks dressed up something that had already existed in OOTP4 (the challenge mode).

I'm honestly surprised at the amount of shots the manager mode takes, and some of the things people say about the people who enjoy the feature. It doesn't take anything away from the game, in my opinion, nor does it really add it; it just adds a little color.

For me personally, it's kept me in the solo league I'm running instead of starting over a new one. Instead of resetting, I've stuck around, just to see how my kids' careers turn out.

PSUColonel · 06-09-2003, 02:39 AM

I am not taking shots at manager mode- manager mode is something very necessary- I just don't see why you need to have children and so forth. JUst seems a little corny to me.

rallymonkey1982 · 06-09-2003, 02:40 AM

If you're not having a boy, divorce the hag and find another one.

HolyCow98 · 06-09-2003, 02:59 AM

I understand what you mean...the manager part of the manger mode you like...but the marriage/family stuff is not your cup of tea.

Kinda what I mean earlier in one of my posts was that for Markus, and it almost sounded from a gamer perspective and not as the developer, he really finds the aspect of having a boy watching him grow (baseball skills wise) and then seeing if they can develop and maybe make it to the big leagues. He couldn't add that aspect but make it such a sure thing, so the logical addition was to also include daughters/divorces and what not.

Again..I think that part was something that really appealed to him....and he hoped/hopes others. I can see where for alot of people this would just be a totally unuseful part of the game.

MrWorkrate · 06-09-2003, 03:30 PM

The thing with the whole "marriage/family" aspect of it though can be easily enough ignored. If you choose to ignore the "relationship" part, you don't get affected. The game doesn't even stop to let you know something happened; just a small box appears if you begin or end a relationship. Those who wish to use the manager mode more like the "challenge" mode can do so without having to even see any of the "personal" aspects of it.

From whatever perspective Markus was looking from when he made the feature, I think he also predicted that there would be some who didn't like the "personal" feature. This is why I think it was put on a seperate page, and left the game completely functional if you chose not to participate in it.

I think if Markus chooses to further enhance this feature, to say include features more related to the personal life of the manager (such as divorce affecting managerial ability the same way a player would go "cold"), he would include a feature that would allow it to be turned off.

Eric · 06-09-2003, 05:38 PM

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Originally posted by ATypicalGiantsFan
In manager mode, I just had another child. This seems to be cause for celebration, but not for me. It was my 4th girl. I want a boy that plays baseball. Why else would I have a kid. Can this be fixed in the patch Who cares about trade AI when I can't have a boy.

You can always have your daughters play in the PGA.

bsbll_n_mn · 06-09-2003, 08:46 PM

i'd like a kill the child or learn of the child before the birth and then have an abortion

^ in no way am i for abortion - i am actually completely against it, but for the sake of the game - I WANT SONS!!!

ChipperJones10 · 06-10-2003, 04:21 AM

This game is like China, utter dissatisfaction over the birth of a girl.

Skipaway · 06-10-2003, 04:31 AM

Maybe they could just add a feature to adopt kids.

Eric · 06-10-2003, 11:14 AM

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Originally posted by Skipaway
Maybe they could just add a feature to adopt kids.

I would like to adopt Barry Bonds and Pedro Martinez.

Hmm.. somehow it's just not the same.

messenjah · 06-10-2003, 08:07 PM

so if you divorce can you get more than your alloted 5 kids?

06-08-2003, 09:10 PM	#1
ATypicalGiantsFan Registered User Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 105	Why I hate this game In manager mode, I just had another child. This seems to be cause for celebration, but not for me. It was my 4th girl. I want a boy that plays baseball. Why else would I have a kid. Can this be fixed in the patch Who cares about trade AI when I can't have a boy. __________________ According to the Chicago Tribune, the following statistic was given in the press notes for a Chicago-Oakland game: The Oakland Athletics are 32-0 in games in which they have scored more runs than their opponents. Phil Rizzuto - "Hey Yogi I think we're lost." - Yogi Berra - "Ya, but we're making great time!" "I knew I was going to take the wrong train, so I left early."-Berra

06-08-2003, 09:51 PM	#2
John C Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Albion, RI Posts: 2,286 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	It's King Henry syndrome. Have the woman beheaded! -John __________________ Facebook \| My Videos

06-09-2003, 12:05 AM	#5
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	Yeah, this feature isn't really for everyone.... Markus or Steve had said in the past that the code for this feature was not time consuming at all. Not sure what that meant as far as hours/days. I also think that this was something that Markus wanted to put in partially for his one reasons, not so much as selling point. (IE Almanac) __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

06-09-2003, 12:22 AM	#6
pallison14 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 452	I thought it was going to be something that I wouldn't care for, but I've actually come to enjoy it a bit. Our of 6 kids, I've only had 1 boy -- and he looked like he was going to be a monster. I also like the fact that I'm a 63 year old man dating a 23 year old. That's what happens when your wife of 30 some odd years up and leaves ya. __________________ Commissioner, NGBL - Putting the FUNK in defunct. New York (AL), UBL

06-09-2003, 12:34 AM	#8
MrWorkrate All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,262	Not that I know the code that Markus is using, but something like the manager mode's "personal" aspects aren't complex enough to take much time. Things are pretty much determined randomly, from the age and name of the woman entering your life, whether or not the woman wants to marry you, whether they leave, if they want to have children, the sex of the children, and whether or not they end up being prospects. They all seem like relatively simple random factors that have a certain percentage of success and failure, and are unaffected by outside forces (such as winning or losing, age, etc). I could be off base, but I don't think it's something that Markus set out to develop (as other features may have been), but somthing that with a few tweaks dressed up something that had already existed in OOTP4 (the challenge mode). I'm honestly surprised at the amount of shots the manager mode takes, and some of the things people say about the people who enjoy the feature. It doesn't take anything away from the game, in my opinion, nor does it really add it; it just adds a little color. For me personally, it's kept me in the solo league I'm running instead of starting over a new one. Instead of resetting, I've stuck around, just to see how my kids' careers turn out. __________________ I used to come here a lot. Now, not so much.

06-08-2003, 11:43 PM	#3
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,143	To be honest, I just feel this whole aspect of the game is unnecessary, and corny. I think efforts would be better served elsewhere.

06-09-2003, 02:39 AM	#9
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,143	I am not taking shots at manager mode- manager mode is something very necessary- I just don't see why you need to have children and so forth. JUst seems a little corny to me.

06-09-2003, 02:40 AM	#10
rallymonkey1982 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Orange County Posts: 436	If you're not having a boy, divorce the hag and find another one. __________________ "This is sort of like living the American dream. You get to come the ballpark and get a free beer." - Arte Moreno My Life

06-09-2003, 02:59 AM	#11
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	I understand what you mean...the manager part of the manger mode you like...but the marriage/family stuff is not your cup of tea. Kinda what I mean earlier in one of my posts was that for Markus, and it almost sounded from a gamer perspective and not as the developer, he really finds the aspect of having a boy watching him grow (baseball skills wise) and then seeing if they can develop and maybe make it to the big leagues. He couldn't add that aspect but make it such a sure thing, so the logical addition was to also include daughters/divorces and what not. Again..I think that part was something that really appealed to him....and he hoped/hopes others. I can see where for alot of people this would just be a totally unuseful part of the game. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

06-09-2003, 03:30 PM	#12
MrWorkrate All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 1,262	The thing with the whole "marriage/family" aspect of it though can be easily enough ignored. If you choose to ignore the "relationship" part, you don't get affected. The game doesn't even stop to let you know something happened; just a small box appears if you begin or end a relationship. Those who wish to use the manager mode more like the "challenge" mode can do so without having to even see any of the "personal" aspects of it. From whatever perspective Markus was looking from when he made the feature, I think he also predicted that there would be some who didn't like the "personal" feature. This is why I think it was put on a seperate page, and left the game completely functional if you chose not to participate in it. I think if Markus chooses to further enhance this feature, to say include features more related to the personal life of the manager (such as divorce affecting managerial ability the same way a player would go "cold"), he would include a feature that would allow it to be turned off. __________________ I used to come here a lot. Now, not so much.

06-09-2003, 08:46 PM	#14
bsbll_n_mn Registered User Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 593	i'd like a kill the child or learn of the child before the birth and then have an abortion ^ in no way am i for abortion - i am actually completely against it, but for the sake of the game - I WANT SONS!!!

06-10-2003, 04:21 AM	#15
ChipperJones10 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 32	This game is like China, utter dissatisfaction over the birth of a girl.

06-10-2003, 04:31 AM	#16
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	Maybe they could just add a feature to adopt kids. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

06-10-2003, 08:07 PM	#18
messenjah All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 565	so if you divorce can you get more than your alloted 5 kids?