When Will OOTP Make Cards Non Fungible??

[Big Poppy]

48 Buyers. 31 Sellers

[rburgh]

Their business is to create demand for items that are in short supply. Guess what? It works!

[Big Poppy]

but they havent solved the year to year problem. if you're paying RM, there should be lasting value.

[LeeD]

Originally Posted by Big Poppy

but they havent solved the year to year problem. if you're paying RM, there should be lasting value.

Why? The whole system is pay-now-and-pay-again-later, which is the business model for collectible games. This week's shiny-new acquisition is next month's afterthought.

[Big Poppy]

I still have baseball cards in our safety deposit box. That's a collectible game. Not vanished annual digitals when blockchain exists.

[HRBaker]

I don't have a problem with using $$ to better my team and not being able to carry it over year to year - BUT - I do have a problem that we are all (whales, small investors, and F2P) compete for a single prize (Perfect League).

This design basically vacuums out the F2P folks in 3 months, the small investors in 6 months, and leaves the whales to play as long as they are getting something for their large investments.

Yes, yes, yes - I know as well as others that some F2P player make it to the top - but most people with other things to do in life don't have the time to spend their lives in front of the computer. There should be a way for small investors and F2P players to have some level of satisfaction so they, too, can play all year if they want to.

My suggestion would be have three levels of investment. You don't have to publish how much anyone pays, just divide the entire group into three levels; top 3rd, middle 3rd, and bottom third of money spent. Give each group its own pyramid... maybe Iron & Bronze (group 1), Silver & Gold (group 2), and Diamond & perfect (group 3). That way, you play with folks who are invested as much as you are.

This year I spent $100. Maybe that or something more would place me in the middle group (Silver & Gold) and I could compete all year for as many Gold championships I could manage. If I decided to spend more, I would move up to the top group and would compete for the Perfect League. If I was an F2P player, I could compete for Bronze trophies till my heart was content.

I know it's unlikely such major changes would be undertaken, but without some sort of "leveling" the only folks who will play this game (PT) for a full year will be the ones that invest the most. So be it I guess.

[dishnet34]

I do not believe this game will ever do any type of segregation like that in terms of secondary or tertiary pyramids based on level of investment into the game. If they do that, I will be shocked.

Also, non-fungible cards and the blockchain in PT will only be done over my metaphorical cold, dead body

[HRBaker]

Originally Posted by dishnet34

I do not believe this game will ever do any type of segregation like that in terms of secondary or tertiary pyramids based on level of investment into the game. If they do that, I will be shocked.

Also, non-fungible cards and the blockchain in PT will only be done over my metaphorical cold, dead body

I fully understand, but the issue described does still exist. Maybe the business model as it stands is solid and sustainable (I have no way of knowing) but there's little doubt those of us that fall too far behind will sooner-than-later lose interest because we don't have the resources ($$/time) to "stay in the game". If the business model works, then those of us that wait till next year will just have to, well... wait till next year.

Speaking only for myself, however, I confirmed my $100 investment was just a short respite from the inevitable anyway, so I'll likely go back to F2P status next year again.

[LeeD]

Originally Posted by Big Poppy

I still have baseball cards in our safety deposit box. That's a collectible game. Not vanished annual digitals when blockchain exists.

Baseball cards are not a game system, although various games that use them have been created over the years. Computer games are completely disposable, largely because the machines and the OS that runs them are disposable. You could get thousands of dollars for a high-quality Ken Griffey Jr. baseball card from 1988-89. How much can you get for a 1989 PC running MS-DOS? Nothing, if you even manage to find one somewhere. Put another way, anyone want to go back and run the original version of OOTP Baseball for more than curiosity's sake?

[AdequateRandomGaming]

Originally Posted by LeeD

Baseball cards are not a game system, although various games that use them have been created over the years. Computer games are completely disposable, largely because the machines and the OS that runs them are disposable. You could get thousands of dollars for a high-quality Ken Griffey Jr. baseball card from 1988-89. How much can you get for a 1989 PC running MS-DOS? Nothing, if you even manage to find one somewhere. Put another way, anyone want to go back and run the original version of OOTP Baseball for more than curiosity's sake?

You actually can possibly make a couple hundred bucks off a machine running MS-DOS. So while games are 100% disposable (just like baseball cards if one doesn't care about the collectible aspect of them), you may want to hold on to some of those older games you have...although, no, old sports games are not worth much of anything, usually.

[Big Poppy]

I have a working Amiga 1000, bought in 1986.