Spray Chart ?

[Bobfather]

When you change a pitcher from LHP to RHP and vice versa shouldn't the spray chart change? Also for switch hitters?

[Brad K]

Maybe. Maybe not. It's flavor. It's not data.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Brad K

Maybe. Maybe not. It's flavor. It's not data.

In my experience the spray charts are not flavor.

Batters have tendencies, pull, spray, none. The game records data as to where balls are hit, it's in the pbp and game log. This data is saved in each players spray chart. You can open any players spray chart, click on each ball marker, and read the location of every ball on the chart. I just looked at the charts of my DH that is pull/pull, and my LF that is spray/pull. Both charts confirm each player's tendencies. Further confirmation comes from playing out all of my games with the spray chart displayed and checking batter tendencies before setting up my defense.

Defense can shift right, left, none. Surely these batted ball tendencies and defensive alignments are taken into account, same as right and left batting/pitching splits, along with other variables in the outcome of the play.


With regard to the OP question, I think OOTP keeps only one spray chart per batter, whether the player is R,L, or S. There is nothing to change. I'd also note a batter's tendencies are the same no matter the handedness of the P. There is also only one listing for tendencies on the player card. If there were tendency splits they would be shown on the player cards. With that in mind two spray charts are not needed in terms of what the game does.

One could of course suggest OOTP should expand to include tendency splits based on pitcher handedness. Not sure how many players IRL have their pull/spray tendencies change based on pitcher handedness, but I'm sure there are some. Maybe a lot?

[Brad K]

The video, play by play, and spray chart will record a fly ball that the OF catches with his back to the fence and the runner on 3B holds. Therefor I have concluded that ball location is not data.

[David Watts]

Originally Posted by Brad K

The video, play by play, and spray chart will record a fly ball that the OF catches with his back to the fence and the runner on 3B holds. Therefor I have concluded that ball location is not data.

Does the spray chart detail where the play by play says the ball was hit, or does it detail where the 3D shows it to be hit?

[Brad K]

They're different?

[Bobfather]

I was talking about the spray chart overlayed on the field. I use it to set my defense.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Bobfather

I was talking about the spray chart overlayed on the field. I use it to set my defense.

In that case the only time it would change would be for a switch hitter. Does it? IDK, I've very rarely used the infield groundball graphic. I simply read it on the batter's card.

Batter's pull/spray/neutral tendencies don't change. Changing from a RHP to a LHP isn't going to make a difference. Pull hitter is always a pull hitter. So I think(?) a switch hitter listed as "pull" pulls from both left and right side. Right or wrong, that is the way I defend them.

One could argue some RHB pull RHP and try to "go the other way" with a LHP. I don't think those guys exist in OOTP. Might be something to add at some time, hopefully based on real life data.

My 2 cents. YMMV.