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Old 02-12-2025, 04:21 PM   #1
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Easy feature - please add

For us online floks, can you add a page we can go to that will show what things a commissioner has done each sim? And the page is not editable by the commissioner?

This would be very easy and help instill faith that our lovely commissioners of online leagues are not editing, or looking at players under the hood, etc.

Please? Show us onliners some love?
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Old 02-12-2025, 04:34 PM   #2
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As an online league commissioner who does it for this reason, seconded.
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Old 02-12-2025, 05:11 PM   #3
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Seems like a reasonable request.

However, it loses a lot of respect for the assumption that it would be "very easy". You absolutely cannot know that.
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Old 02-12-2025, 05:19 PM   #4
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Seems like a reasonable request.

However, it loses a lot of respect for the assumption that it would be "very easy". You absolutely cannot know that.
Thank you for advocating for the developers.

There are only certain "pages" in game a commissioner can access. In order to access them, they must already be identified in the code, otherwise anyone could access them. It seems to me that it would be not hard to put in code that identifies when said pages were accessed and dropped into a log.

I am sorry I lost "a lot of respect" for assuming the developers of this amazing game could figure it out given these reasons.
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Old 02-12-2025, 05:25 PM   #5
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Seems like a reasonable request.

However, it loses a lot of respect for the assumption that it would be "very easy". You absolutely cannot know that.
I've been here since 2002 and this has been asked for for as long as I can remember. I too think it is a very reasonable request. However, to not have it, after all of this time, might suggest that it is not as easy as some think?

My best guess (that is worth as much as me saying something should be easy to code ) is anything coded can be probably be worked around. It may take some work, but in online leagues between strangers, I think it's a possible outcome. There's always someone hanging their self worth on winning in pretty much anything they do.
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Old 02-12-2025, 05:26 PM   #6
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I've been here since 2002 and this has been asked for for as long as I can remember. I too think it is a very reasonable request. However, to not have it, after all of this time, might suggest that it is not as easy as some think?

My best guess (that is worth as much as me saying something should be easy to code ) is anything coded can be probably be worked around. It may take some work, but in online leagues between strangers, I think it's a possible outcome. There's always someone hanging their self worth on winning in pretty much anything they do.
If it's an issue of it being too complex then that's understandable. Hopefully we hear if that's why it isn't in the game. I would not fault them - code can get clunky over so many years. I'd just like to hear them say that's why
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Old 02-12-2025, 05:28 PM   #7
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If it's an issue of it being too complex then that's understandable. Hopefully we hear if that's why it isn't in the game. I would not fault them - code can get clunky over so many years. I'd just like to hear them say that's why
Reasonable request. If they have made a statement over the years I don't recall reading it. I'd hope you get an official answer.
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Old 02-12-2025, 06:52 PM   #8
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For us online floks, can you add a page we can go to that will show what things a commissioner has done each sim? And the page is not editable by the commissioner?

This would be very easy and help instill faith that our lovely commissioners of online leagues are not editing, or looking at players under the hood, etc.

Please? Show us onliners some love?
For those of us that are true (non-team owning) Commissioners of leagues where Community Created Players give themselves boosts, this would help for those of us who serve a larger group of people and want to allow the information to confirm their requests for improving their player are completed in good order.

This wouldn't be a bad idea for why you have it in mind, but it would certainly help be an accounting tool on my end and not have to answer "Did you do my boosts yet?" lots of times!
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I am going to guess the main reason this is not a thing is because, log files, can become VERY big and take up a TON of space. Something, that a lot of us do not like are VERY LARGE files. I use to run an online game that had a logfile to try and help prevent cheating and I will tell you, back in 1998 when hard drives were tiny, a logfile or MANY logfiles, for every time the game rebooted, took up a lot of hard drive space, something I had to make a batch file to make an easy way to delete. sometimes up to hundreds of logfile because the game would get caught in a crash loop because of a bug.

So, yeah, making a logfile is not really a hard thing to make but making it so that logfile does not end up taking gigs worth of data, that's an issue.
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Old 02-13-2025, 03:10 PM   #10
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I am going to guess the main reason this is not a thing is because, log files, can become VERY big and take up a TON of space. Something, that a lot of us do not like are VERY LARGE files. I use to run an online game that had a logfile to try and help prevent cheating and I will tell you, back in 1998 when hard drives were tiny, a logfile or MANY logfiles, for every time the game rebooted, took up a lot of hard drive space, something I had to make a batch file to make an easy way to delete. sometimes up to hundreds of logfile because the game would get caught in a crash loop because of a bug.

So, yeah, making a logfile is not really a hard thing to make but making it so that logfile does not end up taking gigs worth of data, that's an issue.
Hard drive space has gone up so very in the past decade.

Per the Steam Hardware survey
54% of users had over 1 TB in HDD space.

Almost 95% had 250 GB or above

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How can a log file that is mostly text based takes up that much space?

Even if it takes up say 1 GB, which would be massive for a log file.
1 GB is a drop in the bucket for PCs of the last decade.

I am tired of 2000s and early 2010s thinking holding this game series back.

I feel like I am in the minority here, but I wish more people would push OOTPD to actually innovate and take advantage of modern resources and computing technology.
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I am going to guess the main reason this is not a thing is because, log files, can become VERY big and take up a TON of space. Something, that a lot of us do not like are VERY LARGE files. I use to run an online game that had a logfile to try and help prevent cheating and I will tell you, back in 1998 when hard drives were tiny, a logfile or MANY logfiles, for every time the game rebooted, took up a lot of hard drive space, something I had to make a batch file to make an easy way to delete. sometimes up to hundreds of logfile because the game would get caught in a crash loop because of a bug.

So, yeah, making a logfile is not really a hard thing to make but making it so that logfile does not end up taking gigs worth of data, that's an issue.

Fabric, datalake parquet files?

I am sure online leagues would be more popular with enhanced features. I would love to play...but it has to be easy. Not sure why it can't be interegrated into game (to play and join). Not unlike PT tournaments
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Old 02-17-2025, 06:21 PM   #12
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Seems like a reasonable request.

However, it loses a lot of respect for the assumption that it would be "very easy". You absolutely cannot know that.

If I had a nickel for every time a client asked me for a 'easy' or 'quick' change, I'd be able to buy OOTP for the rest of the century.

Just because something sounds like it would be easy to a non-technical person does not mean that it is easy for someone working with that code.


This does seem like a good idea for the game, though. I don't play online but I'm kind of shocked that it isn't there already.
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