All Time Great Players ... coming soon.

Spanky · 06-02-2003, 01:00 AM

Just thought I'd post a note to let everyone know I'm in the process of sifting through the Lahman's database and the baseball encyclopedia to create a master file of all significant palyers from 1900 to 2003. I'm almost done with the 1960's.
There will be all the best players (and many duplicates) to choose from. It will therefore be possible to set up and create historical leagues from all the best players over any of the modern decades.
Drop me a note if you'd be interested in obtaining a copy of my files. Lastly, "thanks" to the people at OOTP for putting together this wonderfully fancinating experience. Keep up the good work as I see there is still a ways to go especially in making "on-line" games more interactive and easier to keep play and keep track of.
This is my contribution toward that goal.

Spanky

adventureran · 06-02-2003, 07:33 AM

Sounds great. I would definitely be interested in a copy. My info's in my Profile. If you need a place to host/share it with the community, feel free to use my OOTP Mods Directory. Link is in my sig. Thanks!

Spanky · 06-02-2003, 08:42 PM

Thanks for your interest. I'm working to finish the 1960's. Are you interested in viewing my files so far? Give me the directions for posting the file - its about 75-90 MB zipped and nearly 500 MB unzipped and growing! Other than Lehman's its an awesome file of players. With any luck I'll be done with the 60's by 9pm this evening. Then its onwards 70's, 80's, 90's, & 2000's - about 50-60 more hours of work. But, I have not left out many significant players. When I'm done, I'll polish it off with some 19th Century Greats!

My email is: Redfoxtrot@aol.com

Regards
Spanky

Steve Kuffrey · 06-03-2003, 12:57 AM

Sounds like a wonderful piece of work, thanks in advance for your hard work.

twins15 · 06-03-2003, 01:10 AM

I would definitely be interested in something like tihs. I was thinking of doing something similar, except just mainly using hall of famers. Thanks for your work.

Cuss16 · 06-03-2003, 02:37 AM

That is a huge file though....no way to split it? like by decades maybe? Anyways, thanx for the great work!

Spanky · 06-03-2003, 08:59 PM

Good news! The file size has been reduced greatly since I deleted all the box scores and news stories from the league date files. However, since I'm just beginning the 1970's, I expect it to grow quite a bit. So far, everythink is managable but then again I have 600MB Ram running too. It would be nice were there a utility to split off certain players or teams. I go thru this everytime I find a baseball game I like. Once its done its done and the updates are minimal. However, it makes for years of playing enjoyment. Let me know if you have any ideas.

Regards
Spanky

adventureran · 06-03-2003, 11:44 PM

I sent you an email with upload info. If you'd like to upload what you have, I'll take a look to see if there is any way to decrease the file size for final release. Thanks again for your hard work!

Spanky · 06-04-2003, 02:21 AM

Thanks for writing. I did not receive your email instructions.
Could you send them again? I'm just starting into the 1970's and so am not ready to post an official copy. Of course, I know there are many who may not care and want to use what I have done so far. I suppose that's ok. I have cut the file size down dramatically as I stopped playing games and deleted the box scores and news files. May I ask for a favor in return? Commish Joe is going to help me set up a website for my league. In the meantime, I have alot of questions about some of the other MOD programs listed on your site. Such as Cato's utility. What is that used for? On-line or off-line games? And, would you be so kind as to help me get pointed in the right direction? That is help me make the best use of the right MODS and help me get my on-line league together? My player data file is truely a work of love and reflects a very rich and well populated presentation of baseball "all time great," and, in some respect, not so great supporting players. For example, the database includes only pitchers who have given up less hits than innings pitched and who ususally have low "whip" factors. Pitchers who have pitched in 50+ games or 300+ innings in a season are rated as "durable."
Position players include the greats who have either hit for .Avg or have lots of stolen bases, home runs, or RBI's. I have also filled in each decade with lots of lesser but pivitol players who made contributions in other ways such as fielding or who were "key" to their teams progress in any given season. Players with less than 300 AB prior to 1950 or so were rated as "prone" while more modern players with less than 400 AB's where rated "prone". Similarly, players who played in 158+ games are rated "durable."
The logic here is so that no MGR constantly plays or relies on the utility player who may have had a high Avg. or a good HR to AB .pct of HR's. In many cases there are multiple versions of each player (ie., Mays, Mantle, Ruth, Aaron, etc.) to choose from.
Each player is listed in the database with his name and the year and team abbreviation after his name, i.e., Mantle'55Y or Clemente'59Pi (Pirates), or Jim Bunning'59P (Philadelphia). This will make it a piece of cake to choose the exact player in the database. Of course, everything can be edited! My database will be an excellent utilty for those, like me, who want get right into the heart of historical baseball.

Regards
Spanky

Spanky · 06-04-2003, 02:28 AM

Oh yeah, if I might add something more. The database already the 16 teams (8 Natl / 8 American) in existence from 1900 to 1919. So, in many respects the database comes ready to dig in and play and expand upon! There is still some editing work to be done to the assigned players but that is minor in comparison to the rest of the work at hand.

Spanky

Spanky · 06-04-2003, 02:34 AM

Now, if the good folks at OOTP are looking in ... how about building a "split" screen into the player and team import module where one can bring up two teams (including minor leagues) side by side and be able to drag and drop players from one team to the other? This would be something along the lines of the TRADE module except that it would list all players and not involve and bargaining. Also, it would include the FREE AGENT pool too!

adventureran · 06-04-2003, 08:58 AM

Of course I'll help. And Joe (CommishJoe) is the guy for the job, too. I have my solo league online using BOSI and it adds so much to the experience.

The instructions to upload are actually on the site itself, so you don't need to wait or look for an email. Just go to the site (link's in my sig) and click on FTP Upload Info.

Cato's history utility is just that. It's there to basically provide you with an expanded (much expanded) version of the Almanac within the game. It's an incredible utility and would highly recommend it. Gives your leage a customizable look similar to Baseball Ref.

Also, anything by Pierre is extremely useful. You can find a link to the site hosting his utilities on the Directory as well.

There are tons of graphical mods available, too. You can either download some from the Directory, or there are links there to where the vast majority of them can be found.

As far as helping with your site, if you're signing up for an account from All-in-One (Joe), that's the best way to go. Otherwise, yes, I could probably help out if you're just looking to put up a page and/or BOSI.

Feel free to IM me (info's in my profile) for more "hands-on" help.

Thanks again.

woody5254 · 06-04-2003, 10:16 AM

This sounds great I can't wait for you to get it done. I enjoy doing leagues like this with my family.

dcundy · 06-24-2003, 08:47 PM

Sounds good count me in too.

djcundy@earthlink.net

06-02-2003, 01:00 AM	#1
Spanky Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 307	All Time Great Players ... coming soon. Just thought I'd post a note to let everyone know I'm in the process of sifting through the Lahman's database and the baseball encyclopedia to create a master file of all significant palyers from 1900 to 2003. I'm almost done with the 1960's. There will be all the best players (and many duplicates) to choose from. It will therefore be possible to set up and create historical leagues from all the best players over any of the modern decades. Drop me a note if you'd be interested in obtaining a copy of my files. Lastly, "thanks" to the people at OOTP for putting together this wonderfully fancinating experience. Keep up the good work as I see there is still a ways to go especially in making "on-line" games more interactive and easier to keep play and keep track of. This is my contribution toward that goal. Spanky

06-03-2003, 12:57 AM	#4
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,035	Sounds like a wonderful piece of work, thanks in advance for your hard work. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

06-03-2003, 01:10 AM	#5
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	I would definitely be interested in something like tihs. I was thinking of doing something similar, except just mainly using hall of famers. Thanks for your work. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

06-03-2003, 02:37 AM	#6
Cuss16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 2,994	That is a huge file though....no way to split it? like by decades maybe? Anyways, thanx for the great work! __________________

06-03-2003, 08:59 PM	#7
Spanky Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 307	Spankys All Time Greats (SATG's) Good news! The file size has been reduced greatly since I deleted all the box scores and news stories from the league date files. However, since I'm just beginning the 1970's, I expect it to grow quite a bit. So far, everythink is managable but then again I have 600MB Ram running too. It would be nice were there a utility to split off certain players or teams. I go thru this everytime I find a baseball game I like. Once its done its done and the updates are minimal. However, it makes for years of playing enjoyment. Let me know if you have any ideas. Regards Spanky

06-02-2003, 07:33 AM	#2
adventureran Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 447	Sounds great. I would definitely be interested in a copy. My info's in my Profile. If you need a place to host/share it with the community, feel free to use my OOTP Mods Directory. Link is in my sig. Thanks!

06-02-2003, 08:42 PM	#3
Spanky Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 307	Thanks for your interest. I'm working to finish the 1960's. Are you interested in viewing my files so far? Give me the directions for posting the file - its about 75-90 MB zipped and nearly 500 MB unzipped and growing! Other than Lehman's its an awesome file of players. With any luck I'll be done with the 60's by 9pm this evening. Then its onwards 70's, 80's, 90's, & 2000's - about 50-60 more hours of work. But, I have not left out many significant players. When I'm done, I'll polish it off with some 19th Century Greats! My email is: Redfoxtrot@aol.com Regards Spanky

06-03-2003, 11:44 PM	#8
adventureran Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 447	I sent you an email with upload info. If you'd like to upload what you have, I'll take a look to see if there is any way to decrease the file size for final release. Thanks again for your hard work!

06-04-2003, 02:21 AM	#9
Spanky Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 307	Adventure Ran Thanks for writing. I did not receive your email instructions. Could you send them again? I'm just starting into the 1970's and so am not ready to post an official copy. Of course, I know there are many who may not care and want to use what I have done so far. I suppose that's ok. I have cut the file size down dramatically as I stopped playing games and deleted the box scores and news files. May I ask for a favor in return? Commish Joe is going to help me set up a website for my league. In the meantime, I have alot of questions about some of the other MOD programs listed on your site. Such as Cato's utility. What is that used for? On-line or off-line games? And, would you be so kind as to help me get pointed in the right direction? That is help me make the best use of the right MODS and help me get my on-line league together? My player data file is truely a work of love and reflects a very rich and well populated presentation of baseball "all time great," and, in some respect, not so great supporting players. For example, the database includes only pitchers who have given up less hits than innings pitched and who ususally have low "whip" factors. Pitchers who have pitched in 50+ games or 300+ innings in a season are rated as "durable." Position players include the greats who have either hit for .Avg or have lots of stolen bases, home runs, or RBI's. I have also filled in each decade with lots of lesser but pivitol players who made contributions in other ways such as fielding or who were "key" to their teams progress in any given season. Players with less than 300 AB prior to 1950 or so were rated as "prone" while more modern players with less than 400 AB's where rated "prone". Similarly, players who played in 158+ games are rated "durable." The logic here is so that no MGR constantly plays or relies on the utility player who may have had a high Avg. or a good HR to AB .pct of HR's. In many cases there are multiple versions of each player (ie., Mays, Mantle, Ruth, Aaron, etc.) to choose from. Each player is listed in the database with his name and the year and team abbreviation after his name, i.e., Mantle'55Y or Clemente'59Pi (Pirates), or Jim Bunning'59P (Philadelphia). This will make it a piece of cake to choose the exact player in the database. Of course, everything can be edited! My database will be an excellent utilty for those, like me, who want get right into the heart of historical baseball. Regards Spanky

06-04-2003, 02:28 AM	#10
Spanky Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 307	Oh yeah, if I might add something more. The database already the 16 teams (8 Natl / 8 American) in existence from 1900 to 1919. So, in many respects the database comes ready to dig in and play and expand upon! There is still some editing work to be done to the assigned players but that is minor in comparison to the rest of the work at hand. Spanky

06-04-2003, 02:34 AM	#11
Spanky Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 307	Now, if the good folks at OOTP are looking in ... how about building a "split" screen into the player and team import module where one can bring up two teams (including minor leagues) side by side and be able to drag and drop players from one team to the other? This would be something along the lines of the TRADE module except that it would list all players and not involve and bargaining. Also, it would include the FREE AGENT pool too!

06-04-2003, 08:58 AM	#12
adventureran Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 447	Of course I'll help. And Joe (CommishJoe) is the guy for the job, too. I have my solo league online using BOSI and it adds so much to the experience. The instructions to upload are actually on the site itself, so you don't need to wait or look for an email. Just go to the site (link's in my sig) and click on FTP Upload Info. Cato's history utility is just that. It's there to basically provide you with an expanded (much expanded) version of the Almanac within the game. It's an incredible utility and would highly recommend it. Gives your leage a customizable look similar to Baseball Ref. Also, anything by Pierre is extremely useful. You can find a link to the site hosting his utilities on the Directory as well. There are tons of graphical mods available, too. You can either download some from the Directory, or there are links there to where the vast majority of them can be found. As far as helping with your site, if you're signing up for an account from All-in-One (Joe), that's the best way to go. Otherwise, yes, I could probably help out if you're just looking to put up a page and/or BOSI. Feel free to IM me (info's in my profile) for more "hands-on" help. Thanks again.

06-04-2003, 10:16 AM	#13
woody5254 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Hector, NY Posts: 6,130	This sounds great I can't wait for you to get it done. I enjoy doing leagues like this with my family. __________________ Check out: You Pick Tourney Version 2.0 Standings Thread You Pick The Teams Tourney: Main Thread The Colossal 20th Century Tourney:Main Thread Chicago White Sox(Original Owner:2001-) Baseball Maelstrom -2001,2011,2013 World Series Champions -2002,2010 Maelstrom Tourney Champs Arizona Diamondbacks(2003-) NAHHBL Indianapolis Racers(Expansion Team:1993-)ABC

06-24-2003, 08:47 PM	#14
dcundy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 71	Sounds good count me in too. djcundy@earthlink.net