Player Learned DH with "Learn New Position"

[grmagne]

A player was supposed to learn a new position in the training camp, but he learned DH instead.

[Swiffle]

That's a hilarious bug/oversight. Did you notice if his fielding changed at all?

[snepp]

LOL, nice. He's now highly experienced at either holding down the bench, or holding down the railing.

[Will Beh]

What programs does he already know? DH is the default if there is no position he can learn. However it won't let you do the learn new position training if there is nothing left to learn, so it only occurs in strange cases like if he knew all but one position, but he learnt that last position after he started the program but before he finished it.

[grmagne]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

What programs does he already know? DH is the default if there is no position he can learn. However it won't let you do the learn new position training if there is nothing left to learn, so it only occurs in strange cases like if he knew all but one position, but he learnt that last position after he started the program but before he finished it.

That must have been the problem because I auto-played to the end of spring and the AI manager helped him learn a new position.

[Will Beh]

Originally Posted by grmagne

That must have been the problem because I auto-played to the end of spring and the AI manager helped him learn a new position.

If you check now, does he know every position?

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

What programs does he already know? DH is the default if there is no position he can learn. However it won't let you do the learn new position training if there is nothing left to learn, so it only occurs in strange cases like if he knew all but one position, but he learnt that last position after he started the program but before he finished it.

So what happened for me is I had a P and the new position he learned was DH (I wanted him to learn 1B). But if I set the player's position to CF, then it taught him LF instead.

[Will Beh]

Interesting, I thought pitchers werent able to learn new positions, how'd you get that as an option?

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

Interesting, I thought pitchers werent able to learn new positions, how'd you get that as an option?

Good question! He's a good hitter so I wanted him to learn an offensive position in case his hitting improved.


So I set his position to CF and then selected "Learn a New Position". Then before training started I shifted him back to P because I wanted to be sure that any TCR 200 effects that might happen during this period would improve his pitching, not his hitting. And the position he ended up learning was DH. So when I tried this again the next-offseason I left him as a CF and he learned LF.


Yeah, people meta-game this.

edit: also, if you want your P to learn running skills you have to set them to a non-P position for the start of the training.

[Will Beh]

Ahhhh, ya I think this is related to another thing people are doing where they run defense multiple times by just changing the position. Gonna patch this up. Will probably select the position that gets offered by their best position, not current one.

[uruguru]

Be careful you don't screw up pitchers that can hit! Maybe I want to teach them LF.

[Will Beh]

Originally Posted by uruguru

Be careful you don't screw up pitchers that can hit! Maybe I want to teach them LF.

For sure will keep that in mind

[turtle4499]

Originally Posted by Will Beh

Ahhhh, ya I think this is related to another thing people are doing where they run defense multiple times by just changing the position. Gonna patch this up. Will probably select the position that gets offered by their best position, not current one.

This would be a really bad solution in my opinion. Would force players to be stuck at whatever position the game generates as there best originally most of the time. Is it really that hard to set a single global flag?

[Will Beh]

Originally Posted by turtle4499

This would be a really bad solution in my opinion. Would force players to be stuck at whatever position the game generates as there best originally most of the time. Is it really that hard to set a single global flag?

If a player plays 1st, 2nd, and 3rd base, it doesn't actually matter which of the programs they go through in terms of results because the improvement will help all of the, since the defensive improvement is more of a general infield/outfield improvement.