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Old 01-18-2024, 08:55 PM   #1
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Hard Crash When Advancing to Off-Season

I've ftp'd the files to the OOTP server.

Fortunately I always save my games right before I advance to the off-season and, wouldn't you know it, this save crashed during that portion.

It's a 100% reliable crash (at least for me). Just load it up and advance to the next day.

Good luck.
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Old 01-19-2024, 12:45 AM   #2
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Never hesitate to submit crashes. However oddly enough, I cannot get the same crash, so I'm not exactly sure why you get it repeatedly.

Some things you could try:
-Re-install your OOTP folder/Verify local files, in case there's something in the DB that loads up that's a problem
-disable threading and continue - always a chance there's some condition causing a problem on your machine that's more specific.

Another option could be to zip the entire folder (news, logs, and all), and we can try again in case if there's some other interaction going on (ie. a corrupt log file or something, potentially).
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Old 01-19-2024, 01:10 PM   #3
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I turned off threads and re-installed the data folder. Still crashes 100% of the time.

I zipped up the entire OOTP folder with just the one save, but it's 9 GB. Obviously you do not want me to ftp all of that, so I removed a lot of extraneous files (default_data zips, ballparks, jerseys, caps, logo images, etc etc) and got the zip file down to 788Mb.

It still crashes at the same spot.

I am running 24.11 build 85 (the executable is in the zip) and load the Astros.lg save file. Go to the next day (advancing to the off-season). You can see it loading and sorting the milb players and then it crashes when it says "Recalculating player ratings"

In the data/debug folder you can see some trace files that will hopefully give you the info you need about my particular laptop and you can see how far it gets before it crashes.

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System info:
Uses OpenGL for display
Uses default image resize code
CPU: 8 CPUs, 2595 MHz
Free disk space: 255,837 MB
Physical memory: 7,502 MB, free: 2,757 MB
Virtual memory: 134,217,727 MB, free: 2,757 MB
It's a 35-minute upload.

Good luck!

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Old 01-20-2024, 01:17 AM   #4
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Even the full folder works on my end. I wonder if there might be something corrupt on your computer with it, perhaps?

One option you could try would be to copy (not just rename) the Astros.lg folder to something else, and try that. Sometimes just making sure your computer is looking at something different maybe will help. If that's still an issue, we can likely advance the game and send back the advanced file. Then hopefully that would let you continue past that. But we haven't seen the issues trying here, unfortunately.
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Old 01-20-2024, 04:16 AM   #5
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Even the full folder works on my end. I wonder if there might be something corrupt on your computer with it, perhaps?

One option you could try would be to copy (not just rename) the Astros.lg folder to something else, and try that. Sometimes just making sure your computer is looking at something different maybe will help. If that's still an issue, we can likely advance the game and send back the advanced file. Then hopefully that would let you continue past that. But we haven't seen the issues trying here, unfortunately.
I would even suggest making an entirely new league folder, then copying the .dat files only to that. Then try to sim forward and see if it still crashes for you.

If not, then slowly start adding back in the other folders and files from the original folder and sim forward again periodically. It's possible that something in the folder is corrupt and causing issues. That's an incredibly rare thing to happen, but I have seen it once or twice in the past.
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Old 01-20-2024, 09:43 PM   #6
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I would even suggest making an entirely new league folder, then copying the .dat files only to that. Then try to sim forward and see if it still crashes for you.
This seems like a promising idea! I had no idea you could strip OOTP to run with just those bare esssentials. Unfortunately, it still crashed!

Here is an OBS capture of me creating the clean folder, loading it into OOTP and then advancing to the next day, only to crash at "Calculating Player Ratings"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pr9UPWGxbik

This is the first reproduceable crash I've ever had in OOTP, as opposed to something like corrupted files (which I can recover from because I backup religiously).

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One option you could try would be to copy (not just rename) the Astros.lg folder to something else, and try that. Sometimes just making sure your computer is looking at something different maybe will help. If that's still an issue, we can likely advance the game and send back the advanced file. Then hopefully that would let you continue past that. But we haven't seen the issues trying here, unfortunately.
Yes, it looks like you guys advancing to the next day and sending me the *.dat files is my only option at this point. Let me know what you need on my end to make that happen.
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Old 01-20-2024, 11:38 PM   #7
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I'd really love to know what actually is happening for you, since it's rare to have something so repeatable on one end, but not on the other side. Especially once you have run with re-installing game files, moving the folder around, etc...

The only other thing I could think of is whether you are running off a custom data directory, and that doesn't have the right DB installed, which when you advance caused someone to be imported with something that didn't work with another part of the game. But even that should certainly be rare to happen.

I can send the advanced league over. You can check through to make sure it seems to have advanced properly, and that you can continue onwards.
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The only other thing I could think of is whether you are running off a custom data directory, and that doesn't have the right DB installed, which when you advance caused someone to be imported with something that didn't work with another part of the game. But even that should certainly be rare to happen.
I'm not sure how I would be doing that! But I did use the feature you suggested to reset all of the data files, so I'm guessing that would have cleared up any errors in the data directory.

Anyway, I appreciate you guys helping me get past this problem. I had just acquired Rico Carty two months earlier at the trading deadline and was really looking forward to the next season!
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