Really Stupid Question

[Hwilensky]

If the PT Elite cards are based on the wonderful seasons players had, would't their live cards be just as good. Wouldn't the "algorithm" they use to determine player ratings, be the same? Just asking..

[PunishedF2P]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

If the PT Elite cards are based on the wonderful seasons players had, would't their live cards be just as good. Wouldn't the "algorithm" they use to determine player ratings, be the same? Just asking..

Since 70% of the cards people pull are LIVE cards, and they've been around since the beginning of the year, it wouldn't make sense or be feasible for them to be more powerful than non-live cards (inserts).

The PT Elite are designed to give us current player cards that are actually playable for tourneys and league play; making LIVE cards competitive would kill the balance of the game.

[Fabtron7]

Exactly... Live cards are essentially pack filler and are rated on a different scale from the historical cards.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by Fabtron7

Exactly... Live cards are essentially pack filler and are rated on a different scale from the historical cards.

I get that....but the stats they are basing the elite cards on, are the exact same ones that are reflected in their live cards. Because they are deemed "historical", they get a boost?

[Fabtron7]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

I get that....but the stats they are basing the elite cards on, are the exact same ones that are reflected in their live cards. Because they are deemed "historical", they get a boost?

Correct.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

I get that....but the stats they are basing the elite cards on, are the exact same ones that are reflected in their live cards. Because they are deemed "historical", they get a boost?

It could be that enhanced live cards sell more perfect points than exactly the same card ratings would if the name on the card was Whitey Witt. Whatever pays the bills is OK by me.

[Kushiel]

The cards make no sense in regard to reality usually and never have. I am still adjusting to the fantasy aspect of the game; and I have played all PT editions. All we can do is play the nonsense they give us or not play. My love of baseball is 90% of why I PT. The card game itself on this side is borderline ridiculous at times.

Markus made the greatest baseball game ever. Current Corporate ownership is turning it into a money grab in mine and many others' opinions. The packable cards released weekly are a big part of the problem. But when your eyes are on dollar signs, they are blind to problems. Remember when usually cards were one week and missions were the next week more often than not? The plankton runs for the whales kept them in interested and the missions kept the little guys hooked.

All that said, I am still playing. Go figure.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

The cards make no sense in regard to reality usually and never have. I am still adjusting to the fantasy aspect of the game; and I have played all PT editions. All we can do is play the nonsense they give us or not play. My love of baseball is 90% of why I PT. The card game itself on this side is borderline ridiculous at times.

Markus made the greatest baseball game ever. Current Corporate ownership is turning it into a money grab in mine and many others' opinions. The packable cards released weekly are a big part of the problem. But when your eyes are on dollar signs, they are blind to problems. Remember when usually cards were one week and missions were the next week more often than not? The plankton runs for the whales kept them in interested and the missions kept the little guys hooked.

All that said, I am still playing. Go figure.

Agreed 100% on all points!!!!

[rburgh]

That in the 7 years I've played this game, never once has Babe Ruth had a dominant hitting card. Given that they are evaluating players basically by standard deviations of their statistics from the league norm, that's ridiculous.

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by rburgh

That in the 7 years I've played this game, never once has Babe Ruth had a dominant hitting card. Given that they are evaluating players basically by standard deviations of their statistics from the league norm, that's ridiculous.

It is the most ridiculous thing in the game when arguably the best hitter of all time can't have a decent card. Babe trained on whiskey, cigars, and women and still did all that he did. Training like today's players and it might be frightening what the Babe could do.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by Kushiel

It is the most ridiculous thing in the game when arguably the best hitter of all time can't have a decent card. Babe trained on whiskey, cigars, and women and still did all that he did. Training like today's players and it might be frightening what the Babe could do.

I sort of agree with this as something came to me while sleeping(yes I dream ootp). These cards are "based" on a season or seasons in whiich they played. However, they got those stats playing against inferior competiton. Babe Ruth probably faced one dominant pitcher every 7 days. When you are playing in gold or higher, he is usually batting against dominant pitchers in every single at bat. So he's not going to kill it in every time.

What I am not a fan of is that they slap lipstick on a pig, and telling us its not a pig. They have live cards all season long, whose ratings go up and down. Then they release a set of cards BASED on their season stats, and those numbers do not match up against their live cards. They give it a "historical" boost. Just seems their is no rhyme or reason as to the numbers on the cards.Just making it seem that they could alter anything they would like, just to make a few extra bucks. If they are doing it for this, what else are they altering to make a few extra bucks.

[Kushiel]

Because a pitcher seems dominant now does not mean he would have been in 1920's where he would have grown up in the same conditions. And he would have had to throw consistent strikes in an era when average mattered.

[bailey]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

.Just making it seem that they could alter anything they would like, just to make a few extra bucks. If they are doing it for this, what else are they altering to make a few extra bucks.

There are better ways for the company to extract extra bucks than issuing content (at least from me). They could offer to sell extra tournament slots for $5 a month, (3 slots for $10).

Also, looking forward to Big PP (supersized) next year. For $999 get 5M points flat and 24 months of PT+ included, not to mention (but I will) better daily login rewards (historical cards only) and a 50% tax cut on all card sales.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by bailey

There are better ways for the company to extract extra bucks than issuing content (at least from me). They could offer to sell extra tournament slots for $5 a month, (3 slots for $10).

Also, looking forward to Big PP (supersized) next year. For $999 get 5M points flat and 24 months of PT+ included, not to mention (but I will) better daily login rewards (historical cards only) and a 50% tax cut on all card sales.

I'll make sure to get 3 of those big PP packages.....

[PunishedF2P]

Originally Posted by rburgh

That in the 7 years I've played this game, never once has Babe Ruth had a dominant hitting card. Given that they are evaluating players basically by standard deviations of their statistics from the league norm, that's ridiculous.

What about Platinum Series 3 Babe Ruth in PT23? That card was a beast. Won three MVPs for me. I paid 1.5 million PP for it shortly after it dropped last year, and it was a stalwart for 15 season or so before getting replaced by some end game cards.

The Tourney Babe Ruth perfect from this year was also one of the best hitting cards in the game when it dropped, and for a while after.

[bdawg]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

If the PT Elite cards are based on the wonderful seasons players had, would't their live cards be just as good. Wouldn't the "algorithm" they use to determine player ratings, be the same? Just asking..

Yes, your logic is correct.

However, you have to remember, the devs want to encourage people to keep spending PP, so they continuously create new cards (often of the same players) that perform better in PT mode as the year goes on so folks will buy PP and then buy players with it. You know, 💰💵.

[Hwilensky]

Originally Posted by bdawg

Yes, your logic is correct.

However, you have to remember, the devs want to encourage people to keep spending PP, so they continuously create new cards (often of the same players) that perform better in PT mode as the year goes on so folks will buy PP and then buy players with it. You know, ����.

Unfortunately, everything about this version of the game is about making money. At least in years past it wasn't so blatant. And with all this money they are making they could put it back into the game so that it isn't crashing 10 times a day or servers don't get hung up as often as they do..

[LeeD]

Originally Posted by bailey

There are better ways for the company to extract extra bucks than issuing content (at least from me). They could offer to sell extra tournament slots for $5 a month, (3 slots for $10).

Also, looking forward to Big PP (supersized) next year. For $999 get 5M points flat and 24 months of PT+ included, not to mention (but I will) better daily login rewards (historical cards only) and a 50% tax cut on all card sales.

Mmmmm. Tax cuts! And beer! And donuts!

[Kushiel]

Originally Posted by Hwilensky

Unfortunately, everything about this version of the game is about making money. At least in years past it wasn't so blatant. And with all this money they are making they could put it back into the game so that it isn't crashing 10 times a day or servers don't get hung up as often as they do..

It actually started last year. I am the only one in my play group that is still playing. The others quit after last year telling me it is about to get much worse. We all had FTP teams but we each had a team that we spent some money on using a limited "salary cap." We were not anything approaching big spenders but now the game has lost those players' possible incoming dollars for this year. I spent more this year than ever on my main team. It has caused me to make a vow. I will not spend next year at all on any of my teams.

Players are spending more to remain in higher leagues because it costs so much more. Everybody's pockets are less deep these days. Players are leaving every year. The peak player base has already happened. The base will only continue to shrink.

Will they mitigate the bleeding somehow?

Will Babe Ruth ever be relevant?

Can Heironymus Merkin ever forget Mercy Humppe and find true happiness?

Stay tuned for answers to these and many other of your baseball questions in PT25.

[Hwilensky]

This year I only spent money on PT Plus, for the extra tournament slot, since the screwed everyone over on the rewards. Going from 10/5 to 3/1 was a blatant kick in the face, and they should rot in hell for it. lol That being said, i did enjoy the extra points it gave for achievements. But other than that, I will be a casual player next year. Let the 50 people that pay thousands of dollars fund the game. A game that had over 57000 teams last year is down to 22,000. Only going to get smaller, as they haven't learned their lesson.