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Old 12-19-2023, 11:45 AM   #1
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This game is boring

Until 2 outs in the inning. It is amazing how little happens in this game until 2 outs. I am seeing tons of runs being scored after 2 outs and nobody on. AND, big innings 4 runs or more. 6-7 hits/walks/HBP in a row. Any one else notice this?
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Old 12-19-2023, 11:53 AM   #2
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Small sample size.

Come back when this has happened 100+ times over multiple seasons
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Old 12-20-2023, 09:42 PM   #3
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Until 2 outs in the inning. It is amazing how little happens in this game until 2 outs. I am seeing tons of runs being scored after 2 outs and nobody on. AND, big innings 4 runs or more. 6-7 hits/walks/HBP in a row. Any one else notice this?
I've seen some strange coincidental simulation issues that "resemble" this such as most of my playoff series going max games (best of 7 goes 7 games), the best pitcher in the game always going 4 innings then getting shellacked in play-by-play mode, etc. Without knowing what's in the code, I have a feeling they have a lot of competitive balance additions in the simulation, and the simulation odds seems very different if you sim the game vs play-by-play the game.

Again, I don't know the code, but we would likely see more realistic simulation using gaussian random numbers rather than flat random numbers, but it would also significantly increase the flop count for each dice roll, so I'm guessing the devs have chosen to go with flat random numbers.
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Old 12-21-2023, 12:57 AM   #4
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I've seen some strange coincidental simulation issues that "resemble" this such as most of my playoff series going max games (best of 7 goes 7 games), the best pitcher in the game always going 4 innings then getting shellacked in play-by-play mode, etc. Without knowing what's in the code, I have a feeling they have a lot of competitive balance additions in the simulation, and the simulation odds seems very different if you sim the game vs play-by-play the game.

Again, I don't know the code, but we would likely see more realistic simulation using gaussian random numbers rather than flat random numbers, but it would also significantly increase the flop count for each dice roll, so I'm guessing the devs have chosen to go with flat random numbers.

Lots of fancy words there. I vote for Post #2.
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Old 12-21-2023, 02:47 AM   #5
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Lots of fancy words there. I vote for Post #2.
Without a doubt.
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Until 2 outs in the inning. It is amazing how little happens in this game until 2 outs. I am seeing tons of runs being scored after 2 outs and nobody on. AND, big innings 4 runs or more. 6-7 hits/walks/HBP in a row. Any one else notice this?
I am assuming this happens mostly against your team?
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Old 12-21-2023, 09:34 AM   #7
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Post #2 never even answered the question. It's a simple yes or no.
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Old 12-21-2023, 03:45 PM   #8
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No, I have not. I am about to start my 87th season of my fictional league.
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Old 12-21-2023, 04:08 PM   #9
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Just smearing a great game, post should be deleted imo,
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I'll remember to use small words and grunting noises next time.

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Lots of fancy words there. I vote for Post #2.
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Just smearing a great game, post should be deleted imo,
Huh?
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I have not seen this. Nope. Nada.

But, again, we are still talking small sample size for me too.

Anything is possible! If you play long enough.
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Old 12-21-2023, 06:37 PM   #13
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I have not seen this. Nope. Nada.

But, again, we are still talking small sample size for me too.

Anything is possible! If you play long enough.

Agreed…I have never seen any such thing. But as you say, anything is possible once you mix enough numbers together for long enough.
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Until 2 outs in the inning. It is amazing how little happens in this game until 2 outs. I am seeing tons of runs being scored after 2 outs and nobody on. AND, big innings 4 runs or more. 6-7 hits/walks/HBP in a row. Any one else notice this?
run a report and post, anecdotal doesn't cut it
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Post #2 never even answered the question. It's a simple yes or no.
Post #2 answered the question and had an explanation.
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Until 2 outs in the inning. It is amazing how little happens in this game until 2 outs. I am seeing tons of runs being scored after 2 outs and nobody on. AND, big innings 4 runs or more. 6-7 hits/walks/HBP in a row. Any one else notice this?
no because over the course of hundreds of games you realize things even out.
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Post #2 answered the question and had an explanation.
Question: Anyone else notice this?

Answer: Small sample size.


Wow. Yeah, that's an answer alright.
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Old 12-23-2023, 09:47 AM   #18
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What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Having a "feeling" or a "hunch" is not evidence. Bring some solid tangible piece of data to share, and others might show the slightest bit of interest, but no one with the skills and knowledge to actually test what the person is claiming is going to devote their time to such an undertaking on a random forum post hunch.
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What can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.

Having a "feeling" or a "hunch" is not evidence. Bring some solid tangible piece of data to share, and others might show the slightest bit of interest, but no one with the skills and knowledge to actually test what the person is claiming is going to devote their time to such an undertaking on a random forum post hunch.
We get these posts every year. Someone plays a few games, doesn't like the results and claims the game is broken or boring. Always overlooking that throughout baseball history you can pull stats from a handful of games and make it look broken.
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We get these posts every year. Someone plays a few games, doesn't like the results and claims the game is broken or boring. Always overlooking that throughout baseball history you can pull stats from a handful of games and make it look broken.
This.

Take my current season for example. My team in the preseason predictions is forecast to win 100 games. I started the season 4-11, this game sucks! What is wrong with OOTP?

I'm currently 19-13 and on a pace for 96 wins. But wait, I'm 15-4 over my last 19 games. That's a .789 win pct and means without the poor start I would have won a 128 games, right?


Doesn't mean I'll win 96, or even get to the predicted 100 wins, or the 128 I should win. What it does show is sample size matters.
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