Fielders Choice with not out counted as an out

david limbaugh · 11-12-2023, 02:44 PM

No Out Recorded:

BOTTOM OF THE 10TH
Troy Trojans batting - Pitching for Boston Red Caps : RHP Jack Lynch
Now at 3B: John Donnelly
Now in LF: Tom Mansell
Batting: LHB Buttercup Dickerson 0-0: Ball
1-0: Swinging Strike
1-1: Foul Ball, location: 2F
1-2: Ball
2-2: DOUBLE (Line Drive, 7LM, EV 86.9 MPH)
Batting: LHB Arthur Irwin 0-0: Called Strike
0-1: Ball
1-1: Called Strike
1-2: Ground out 4-3 (Groundball, 34D, EV 104.4 MPH)
Buttercup Dickerson to third
Batting: SHB Clipper Flynn 0-0: Intentional Walk
Pinch Hitting: SHB Bill Boyd 0-0: Ball
1-0: Ball
2-0: Called Strike
2-1: Fielders Choice attempt at home, Runner SAFE. 4-2 (Groundball, 4, EV 105.0 MPH)
Bottom of the 10th over - 1 run, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 left on base; Boston 5 - Troy 6

Box Score credited pitcher for 1/3 of an inning

BOSTON PITCHING LINESCORE TROY PITCHING LINESCORE
Player IP H R ER BB K HR PI ERA
J. Lynch L (1-1) 9.1 13 6 4 5 0 0 166 6.48

FleetWalker · 11-12-2023, 10:59 PM

I may be missing something, but since the Fielder's Choice didn't result in an out, no out should be recorded.

A fielder's choice relates to the batter rather than a fielder. It means there was an option as to where to try to get an out, so the batter doesn't credit for a hit when he reaches because the fielder tried for out somewhere other than first base. It doesn't necessarily mean an out was actually recorded. Failure to record an out doesn't necessary mean there was an error either (as in this case where there was presumably a close play at the plate). 1/3rd of an inning looks correct to me in that situation.

phenom · 11-13-2023, 02:16 PM

Looks like the out occurred on the 4-3 groundout by Arthur Irwin.

11-12-2023, 02:44 PM	#1
david limbaugh All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Murfreesboro (Nashville) Tennessee Posts: 726	Fielders Choice with not out counted as an out No Out Recorded: BOTTOM OF THE 10TH Troy Trojans batting - Pitching for Boston Red Caps : RHP Jack Lynch Now at 3B: John Donnelly Now in LF: Tom Mansell Batting: LHB Buttercup Dickerson 0-0: Ball 1-0: Swinging Strike 1-1: Foul Ball, location: 2F 1-2: Ball 2-2: DOUBLE (Line Drive, 7LM, EV 86.9 MPH) Batting: LHB Arthur Irwin 0-0: Called Strike 0-1: Ball 1-1: Called Strike 1-2: Ground out 4-3 (Groundball, 34D, EV 104.4 MPH) Buttercup Dickerson to third Batting: SHB Clipper Flynn 0-0: Intentional Walk Pinch Hitting: SHB Bill Boyd 0-0: Ball 1-0: Ball 2-0: Called Strike 2-1: Fielders Choice attempt at home, Runner SAFE. 4-2 (Groundball, 4, EV 105.0 MPH) Bottom of the 10th over - 1 run, 1 hit, 0 errors, 1 left on base; Boston 5 - Troy 6 Box Score credited pitcher for 1/3 of an inning BOSTON PITCHING LINESCORE TROY PITCHING LINESCORE Player IP H R ER BB K HR PI ERA J. Lynch L (1-1) 9.1 13 6 4 5 0 0 166 6.48 __________________ @RHS_SID on Twitter - Go Cubs - BoSox - World Series - One Day ...#WhenItHappens

11-13-2023, 02:16 PM	#3
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	Looks like the out occurred on the 4-3 groundout by Arthur Irwin. __________________ reported

11-12-2023, 10:59 PM	#2
FleetWalker Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2002 Location: Granby, CT Posts: 173	I may be missing something, but since the Fielder's Choice didn't result in an out, no out should be recorded. A fielder's choice relates to the batter rather than a fielder. It means there was an option as to where to try to get an out, so the batter doesn't credit for a hit when he reaches because the fielder tried for out somewhere other than first base. It doesn't necessarily mean an out was actually recorded. Failure to record an out doesn't necessary mean there was an error either (as in this case where there was presumably a close play at the plate). 1/3rd of an inning looks correct to me in that situation.