AI won't make roster adjustments to stay within roster limit

Joelman111 · 09-10-2023, 05:27 AM

I'm trying to simulate in "Do not disturb" mode for a long time before I take over a team and start managing, but my simulation keeps getting interrupted by a message "Scheduled game cannot be completed: Milwaukee Thoroughbreds roster over limit". For some reason, the AI seems incapable of making sure this team stays within its roster limit. It only happens during the AAA playoffs at the end of the season. I've tried running computer manager on all teams, but the issue persists. The only way I can solve it is by going into commissioner mode and manually making a random decision for this team I have no interest in controlling. I have transferred the league files under "ai_wont_make_roster_adjustments.zip" as requested in the bug report forum.

This is my first attempt at playing this year's version of the game. I've been playing and simulating in many previous versions and I've never had any issues with this. (The "Do not disturb" mode used to work perfectly!) This is making the simulation actually impossible, please help.

Joelman111 · 09-10-2023, 05:20 PM

I've determined there is an off-by-1 error somewhere because when I change the active roster limit in the league settings, it gives me the same error message with the team having 1 more player on the roster than the current limit (like if I have it set to 26 limit, it will have 27 players). It is not just 1 team having this issue- every few days it will be a different AAA team.

Joelman111 · 09-10-2023, 05:46 PM

As a temporary fix, I've disabled the AAA playoffs and that seems to have eliminated the problem. However, I would obviously like to have a AAA playoff.

bwburke94 · 09-12-2023, 05:49 AM

This may be the result of roster moves not being allowed during the postseason.

Joelman111 · 09-12-2023, 03:11 PM

But if I go into commissioner mode and manually make a move, it works and resolves the issue. If roster moves were not allowed during the postseason, would this not be disallowed?

Rain King · 09-12-2023, 03:18 PM

Commissioner Mode overrides a lot of those type of rules.

Joelman111 · 09-19-2023, 07:04 PM

Any devs at OOTP able to take a look at this? Seems like a pretty core problem

Matt Arnold · 09-20-2023, 02:03 AM

We did have a look, but were unable to fully reproduce the issue. We have seen it sporadically, but the cases tended to resolve themselves.

If you have a file on the day of running into the trouble, that would help more.

Joelman111 · 09-20-2023, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

We did have a look, but were unable to fully reproduce the issue. We have seen it sporadically, but the cases tended to resolve themselves.

If you have a file on the day of running into the trouble, that would help more.

Thank you so much for looking into this!

What do you mean by they "resolved themselves"? Did the error message pop up during the AAA postseason? Did you have to manually hit "ask AI to set up complete minor league system"? Were you able to just keep simming without doing anything when that message popped up?

Weird, I thought that one was a day of having trouble. I will try again and attach a new file if it happens again. (I've just disabled AAA playoffs while running my test configurations, but plan to turn it back on to run my real game)

Matt Arnold · 09-21-2023, 12:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Joelman111

Thank you so much for looking into this!

What do you mean by they "resolved themselves"? Did the error message pop up during the AAA postseason? Did you have to manually hit "ask AI to set up complete minor league system"? Were you able to just keep simming without doing anything when that message popped up?

Weird, I thought that one was a day of having trouble. I will try again and attach a new file if it happens again. (I've just disabled AAA playoffs while running my test configurations, but plan to turn it back on to run my real game)

I know we did see the error pop up, but either simply going and trying to sim the game again, or when we reloaded things, they no longer got stuck on that.

The file loaded was on January 1, and I think it had the playoffs disabled. So it may have been after correcting and simming ahead.

phenom · 10-10-2023, 09:54 PM

I'm having this problem now, as well. Happens 5-10 times every season.

SpinMoon11 · 10-23-2023, 01:55 PM

Having this problem as well and it is mind bogglingly frustrating! Completely nullifies the Do Not Disturb function.

I haven't found a fix outside manually releasing a dude every time but there's gotta be some sort of global setting that I can change?

phenom · 10-24-2023, 10:44 AM

It's maddening, but I don't anticipate a fix.

Fingers McGonnigle · 10-29-2023, 05:54 PM

I've been having this problem too. Never seen it before in well over 10 years of playing, and only seems to have started recently.

phenom · 10-30-2023, 02:00 PM

Yep. Seems to have appeared since the last patch or the one just before it. Never had a problem before in all my years playing.

09-10-2023, 05:27 AM	#1
Joelman111 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2019 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 125	AI won't make roster adjustments to stay within roster limit I'm trying to simulate in "Do not disturb" mode for a long time before I take over a team and start managing, but my simulation keeps getting interrupted by a message "Scheduled game cannot be completed: Milwaukee Thoroughbreds roster over limit". For some reason, the AI seems incapable of making sure this team stays within its roster limit. It only happens during the AAA playoffs at the end of the season. I've tried running computer manager on all teams, but the issue persists. The only way I can solve it is by going into commissioner mode and manually making a random decision for this team I have no interest in controlling. I have transferred the league files under "ai_wont_make_roster_adjustments.zip" as requested in the bug report forum. This is my first attempt at playing this year's version of the game. I've been playing and simulating in many previous versions and I've never had any issues with this. (The "Do not disturb" mode used to work perfectly!) This is making the simulation actually impossible, please help. Attached Images __________________ Just a Pirates fan looking for his McCutchen

09-10-2023, 05:20 PM	#2
Joelman111 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2019 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 125	I've determined there is an off-by-1 error somewhere because when I change the active roster limit in the league settings, it gives me the same error message with the team having 1 more player on the roster than the current limit (like if I have it set to 26 limit, it will have 27 players). It is not just 1 team having this issue- every few days it will be a different AAA team. __________________ Just a Pirates fan looking for his McCutchen

09-10-2023, 05:46 PM	#3
Joelman111 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2019 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 125	As a temporary fix, I've disabled the AAA playoffs and that seems to have eliminated the problem. However, I would obviously like to have a AAA playoff. __________________ Just a Pirates fan looking for his McCutchen

09-12-2023, 03:11 PM	#5
Joelman111 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2019 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 125	But if I go into commissioner mode and manually make a move, it works and resolves the issue. If roster moves were not allowed during the postseason, would this not be disallowed? __________________ Just a Pirates fan looking for his McCutchen

09-19-2023, 07:04 PM	#7
Joelman111 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2019 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 125	Any devs at OOTP able to take a look at this? Seems like a pretty core problem __________________ Just a Pirates fan looking for his McCutchen

09-12-2023, 05:49 AM	#4
bwburke94 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Belchertown, MA, USA Posts: 4,514	This may be the result of roster moves not being allowed during the postseason.

09-12-2023, 03:18 PM	#6
Rain King Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 3,230	Commissioner Mode overrides a lot of those type of rules.

09-20-2023, 02:03 AM	#8
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 16,009	We did have a look, but were unable to fully reproduce the issue. We have seen it sporadically, but the cases tended to resolve themselves. If you have a file on the day of running into the trouble, that would help more.

10-10-2023, 09:54 PM	#11
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	I'm having this problem now, as well. Happens 5-10 times every season. __________________ reported

10-23-2023, 01:55 PM	#12
SpinMoon11 Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2023 Posts: 3	Having this problem as well and it is mind bogglingly frustrating! Completely nullifies the Do Not Disturb function. I haven't found a fix outside manually releasing a dude every time but there's gotta be some sort of global setting that I can change?

10-24-2023, 10:44 AM	#13
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	It's maddening, but I don't anticipate a fix. __________________ reported

10-29-2023, 05:54 PM	#14
Fingers McGonnigle Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2023 Posts: 1	I've been having this problem too. Never seen it before in well over 10 years of playing, and only seems to have started recently.

10-30-2023, 02:00 PM	#15
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,770	Yep. Seems to have appeared since the last patch or the one just before it. Never had a problem before in all my years playing. __________________ reported