WBC Ghost Players

[ETRAIN]

Is there any way to turn off ghost players for the WBC? I have a deep universe with a lot of countries with around 30 players, so 20-25 will usually sign up for the WBC. With such a deep universe with history and lore so important, it's.frustrating when a roster gets filled out with ghosts.

I don't care if one country doesn't have a Catcher and another only has three pitchers, you should make due with what you have. For example, if a minor league has only 18 players and 16 are position players, the AI doesn't fill with ghosts if you toggle allowing ghosts off.

Is it possible to do that for the WBC?

[OutS|der]

How can a team play without a catcher? Also team with only 3 pitchers would be dead tired after a game or two and you'll be stuck with positional players pitching, this would likely result in lopsided scores.

This happens in the minors all the time if you turn off ghosts. Either you can't progress due to not enough players or stats are out of wack due to position players pitching and giving up 50+ runs.

[ETRAIN]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

How can a team play without a catcher? Also team with only 3 pitchers would be dead tired after a game or two and you'll be stuck with positional players pitching, this would likely result in lopsided scores.

This happens in the minors all the time if you turn off ghosts. Either you can't progress due to not enough players or stats are out of wack due to position players pitching and giving up 50+ runs.

I don't care about lopsided scores. This is something that happens in the background of the main online league. I do previews for it and will point out that one team has to overcome not having a Catcher and another country has a terrible staff and it becomes moot when ghosts come in and make the rosters go from weird and entertaining to merely run-of-the-mill bad and uninteresting.

There are hundreds of thousands of players who have come through the universe. Tracking the coincidences of some random Shortstop who had to pitch for his country 4 years prior in the WBC adds color and history to a deep rich league. The game generating some Catcher who never should have been in this universe to soak up games and then disappear adds absolutely none of that.

This issue doesn't exist in league structures. Ghost players are disabled and Human GMs ignore their minors all the time, leading to a bunch of horrendous absurdity. Pitchers starting 60 games. Catchers with -5 WAR cause they were the clubs primary Shortstop, etc.

If Ghost players can be disabled for regular leagues, can they be disabled for the WBC?

[ETRAIN]

Just bumping this to see if there's an answer or if this is something I need to request for next version.

[venflaalachi]

I've always wondered this and I believe there is no option to disable ghost players for tournaments. I really dislike the ghost players since some of them are like all-star level (or above), and elevate what should be really terrible teams to average or better. If ghost players were really bad (as they probably should be, in my mind they should represent non-professional players from that country) I wouldn't mind them as much. I have a big world set up and now limit tournaments to countries that can actually fill out a roster.

I once went through to delete the ghost players but more appeared after, it was a losing battle. I do wish there was an option to turn them off.

[ETRAIN]

Originally Posted by venflaalachi

I've always wondered this and I believe there is no option to disable ghost players for tournaments. I really dislike the ghost players since some of them are like all-star level (or above), and elevate what should be really terrible teams to average or better. If ghost players were really bad (as they probably should be, in my mind they should represent non-professional players from that country) I wouldn't mind them as much. I have a big world set up and now limit tournaments to countries that can actually fill out a roster.

I once went through to delete the ghost players but more appeared after, it was a losing battle. I do wish there was an option to turn them off.

I did the same thing with deleting the ghosts and more appeared. With a small world, I'd imagine it makes sense, but I too have a huge universe and when you have hundreds of thousands of players already, fake players for tournaments are such a buzzkill.

[Bluenoser]

If you disable Ghost Players, then you will be required to fill every position or the game would not advance. So you wouldn't be able to play without a catcher, or a player designated as a catcher to fill the spot. You would need all 9 positions on the line up filled.

[ETRAIN]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

If you disable Ghost Players, then you will be required to fill every position or the game would not advance. So you wouldn't be able to play without a catcher, or a player designated as a catcher to fill the spot. You would need all 9 positions on the line up filled.

That's not true. Some of our GMs who don't pay much attention to their minors don't have every position filed. Right now the 9-44 Angels' AFL affiliate has no Catcher or Second Baseman so Left Fielder Aaron Brett has 10 Games at Catcher.

https://statsplus.net/pba/team/313?page=roster

If I can disable ghost players for our minors, I would like the same for tournaments (given of course that a team has a bare minimum of total roster spots filled. Obviously if a team has 7 players total, that should not be allowed).

[fredbeene]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

If you disable Ghost Players, then you will be required to fill every position or the game would not advance. So you wouldn't be able to play without a catcher, or a player designated as a catcher to fill the spot. You would need all 9 positions on the line up filled.

Then if you don't use ghost, why can't ai make sure they sign enough player, no matter how bad they are

[Supermercado]

Agree that if it has to use ghost players they should be low quality, not generated to match the level of baseball in that country.

[nutt]

Manually select the rosters. Problems solved.

[ETRAIN]

Originally Posted by nutt

Manually select the rosters. Problems solved.

I don't know if that will work. If you manually select the players in the pool you want, if the pool doesn't have a Catcher, it won't matter if you select manually or not.