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Old 06-29-2023, 01:36 PM   #1
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New Team Primer

It's the time of year when creating a new team makes sense. My Number One team is 46-35 at the halfway point in this week's Diamond and pretty much set for the moment, having completed everything mission-wise except for Jackie, Lou, and Negro League 2. I'm doing the usual tournament spamming and collecting points, but the path forward is mostly waiting for accumulation and luck of the draw. So...

I thought I'd start a new team and run a primer on how to get ahead quickly. This is a good time for it based on the following:

1. The Live Missions are now laughably easy to complete. With two cycles of roster replacements and card downgrades complete, the only teams requiring anything above a Silver for live mission completion are Houston and the Dodgers. That's only three Gold cards and a smattering of pricey Silvers throughout the leagues, which is a whole lot cheaper than it was in March and April. There are even two teams which can be completed with only Iron card purchases.

2. Build-a-Lineup is complete, and the frenzy over acquiring Iron and Bronze mission cards is long past. Additionally, the starter cards are readily available at low prices.

3. Multi-mission cards are reasonably well established at this point, so you won't find yourself having to purchase as many cards that are parts of missions you already completed.

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The Primer:

1. Create your account and open the Starter Packs, plus any bonus packs from previous years, plus the extra pack you get for first-day login.

2. Sell everything that's worth more than a few hundred points in order to build up enough for Live Series purchases. This is especially true for Live Perfect, Diamond, and Gold cards. Virtually none of them are needed to complete the Live set. Set up, or have the AI set up, your opening rosters, pitching staff, and lineups. You'll be in Entry League this week, so winning is of no importance. All that matters is collecting points and cards..

3. Go to the card shop, set the max card value to 59, and buy yourself a decent Iron tournament team--but make sure you keep at least a couple of thousand points in the kitty for Live Series purchases. Start spamming tournaments once you're out of the entry pool and league play is commencing.

4. Buy all of the Bronze starter cards for Build a Lineup. Each gets you a Standard pack when you lock it, so it's almost free money given that the cards cost less than 100 PP each. The pack pulls will help with acquiring your live mission cards.

5. Start on the Live Series 1, going division by division. The Central Divisions are easiest, so do them first. Be utterly ruthless in selling or quick-selling the topper cards. Only a small handful (almost all of them Diamonds) will help your team beyond next week, and they can easily be reacquired later if you change your mind. Sell any duplicates you acquire from pack pulls.

6. Finish Live Series 1 and quick-sell the Ken Caminiti card for 20,000 points. It's pretty much worthless for future play and isn't any better than most of the Diamond thirdbasemen. Play the 88 Hojo card at third base. He'll rake at the lower levels and won't kill you with his glove until you reach at least Bronze league.

7. Having sold most of your toppers, you should have at least 30,000 points to spend on Live Series 2. This gets you some useful, and some not so useful, toppers. Keep the good ones and ruthlessly sell the bad ones, which should result in a net point gain as you check off these missions. Install Johan Santana at the top of your rotation. He'll likely win the Cy Young for you next week and might grab the pitching Triple Crown. In an average Rookie League, he's going 25-3 with an ERA south of 2.50 and a boatload of strikeouts.

8. With Live Series completed, hit the Bronze Build a Lineup missions. Each of these gets you two more packs (one Standard and one Silver) to pull at cost of around 1000 points, which is a bargain. You'll also have the silver versions of the Build a Lineup crew, but most of these aren't useful for league play.

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The 24-hour results, from late Tuesday to late Wednesday night (note that you should start on Monday, but I was busy that night):

Ca - 95 Buster Posey (topper)
1B - 94 Mo Vaughn (purchase)
2B - 93 Rennie Stennett (topper)
SS - 99 Pee Wee Reese (topper)
3B - 88 Howard Johnson (topper) / 83 Spencer Steer (pack pull)
LF - 92 Goose Goslin (topper)
CF - 94 Joe DiMaggio (topper)
RF - 99 J.D. Drew (topper)
SP - Santana, Leever, Partlow, Carpenter, Drysdale
RP - Tanana, Cone, Stieb, Tiant, Josh Johnson, Wilbur Wood

CL - Foulke

Note that Leever and Partlow were pack pulls. Without them, Tanana and Cone would be in the rotation.

I would rate my pack pull luck here as average, and this team should utterly dominate in Rookie League next week. Cost: nothin'. Time invested: 24 hours (about 8 hours of actual working time).


Hope this helps any of you who are new to Perfect Team or unsure about how to establish a path.
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Old 06-29-2023, 04:11 PM   #2
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I started a new team a couple weeks ago doing pretty much what you are listing to help newer players. It is easy and requires little attention at that point.

The High Plains Drifters are in Stone League this week and playing 700+ ball. They are a fun diversion. No Money. No PT+. No Tournaments. No Twitch Packs. No self imposed pressure.
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Old 06-29-2023, 09:08 PM   #3
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Yes, the best thing about this is that I can kick back on this team for about a month and they'll roll through the first three levels without any further effort on my part. I've got 128 missions completed and am in first place in the Entry Pool. I've also got almost 75,000 points to invest somewhere and could have four times that much if I sell every Diamond and Perfect that isn't nailed down.

That's one of the reasons I posted this primer. Granted, some of the teams (a lot of them, actually) were just created and immediately forgotten. I count at least a dozen of the 60 with 42-player rosters (the minimum) or 25-player rosters (the minimum after selling everything you can).

Still, there are eight teams with at least one mission completed, and I'm always puzzled when I see players making some effort but not advancing at an easily-obtained pace. Maybe this will help, and maybe it will increase interest in Perfect Team.
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Old 07-01-2023, 04:48 AM   #4
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Great post! It's always fun to start a new team well into the game cycle, for all the reasons you noted and more. I'll add my own tidbit, a variation on this theme that, for reasons which will be obvious, works best if implemented -- ironically enough -- at the very start of the game cycle.

I started all 3 of the teams on my OOTP 24 license on release day. I've been actively developing one team, but the other 2 have done nothing but collect daily login rewards (no PT+ membership) and Twitch stream drops.

One of those teams has 859 packs and a little over 102,000 PP. The other team has 853 packs and almost 110,000 PP. (Yes, it's been a little over 3 months since release day, but it's amazing the kinds of PP you can rack up in achievements in the lower leagues even with "bad" rosters.)

I have Monday off as part of the Independence Day holiday, so I'll be firing up one of those teams. I haven't quite decided what, if any, missions I'm going to complete. I think it might depend on the results of the pack pulls.
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Old 07-01-2023, 08:22 AM   #5
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Great post! It's always fun to start a new team well into the game cycle, for all the reasons you noted and more. I'll add my own tidbit, a variation on this theme that, for reasons which will be obvious, works best if implemented -- ironically enough -- at the very start of the game cycle.

I started all 3 of the teams on my OOTP 24 license on release day. I've been actively developing one team, but the other 2 have done nothing but collect daily login rewards (no PT+ membership) and Twitch stream drops.

One of those teams has 859 packs and a little over 102,000 PP. The other team has 853 packs and almost 110,000 PP. (Yes, it's been a little over 3 months since release day, but it's amazing the kinds of PP you can rack up in achievements in the lower leagues even with "bad" rosters.)

I have Monday off as part of the Independence Day holiday, so I'll be firing up one of those teams. I haven't quite decided what, if any, missions I'm going to complete. I think it might depend on the results of the pack pulls.
This is a good one. Did any of them manage to get beyond Rookie League, or are they doormats?
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Old 07-01-2023, 05:36 PM   #6
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This is a good one. Did any of them manage to get beyond Rookie League, or are they doormats?
3rd team is an absolute doormat, never winning more than 88 games (in its one playoff season), but weirdly that's the one that's got more PP from achievements. Top earner on the roster is 59 Dave Brain, who's raked in almost 15K PP in achievements.

2nd team has seen some success, spending 3 weeks in Stone League back in May after a high-water-mark 87 wins in 2028. Just like the other team, top earner here is also an Iron -- 59 Tony Armas, with a little over 12K PP in achievements.

(I would post pics of the team histories, but the forum isn't letting me attach files for some reason.)
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Old 07-07-2023, 12:27 AM   #7
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I see that I've run into your New York Knights in Rookie League and we're a combined 151 games over .500. Should be an interesting Conference Championship series...if we don't get knocked out by a Wildcard team before that happens.


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Old 07-07-2023, 01:45 AM   #8
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I see that I've run into your New York Knights in Rookie League and we're a combined 151 games over .500. Should be an interesting Conference Championship series...if we don't get knocked out by a Wildcard team before that happens.


Real.

The team I've paid no attention to (just opened packs, resold cards and opened more packs, lol) had 109 wins last season in Iron and finished in 2nd place in the division to a 110 win team, and then lost in wildcard, didn't advance to Bronze, lmao.
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Old 07-07-2023, 06:06 PM   #9
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I see that I've run into your New York Knights in Rookie League and we're a combined 151 games over .500. Should be an interesting Conference Championship series...if we don't get knocked out by a Wildcard team before that happens.


Ha! You're the Wherever Whatevers? That's a nice roster, especially the pitching. I need to get going on updates, I'm sitting on 179K that's getting wasted.

We haven't played each other yet, we get our 6 games in September. That'll be an interesting preview of what might be in the playoffs if we can survive the wild-card buff LOL.
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Ha! You're the Wherever Whatevers? That's a nice roster, especially the pitching. I need to get going on updates, I'm sitting on 179K that's getting wasted.

We haven't played each other yet, we get our 6 games in September. That'll be an interesting preview of what might be in the playoffs if we can survive the wild-card buff LOL.
My pack luck was centered on the pitching, which was Partlow and Leever. The Leever card got me a nice start on Perfect Roberts, so I focused on completing that one. I'm working on Lolich now, but that won't happen before Sunday post-playoffs since I decided to speculate on Monday's live update. Hoping to pull in 40,000 points on that, although the updates have been more difficult to predict this year. A lot depends on which Silvers move up to Gold.

Overall, an incredible start with this team. Your guys are a little better offensively, mine a little better on the mound.
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Real.

The team I've paid no attention to (just opened packs, resold cards and opened more packs, lol) had 109 wins last season in Iron and finished in 2nd place in the division to a 110 win team, and then lost in wildcard, didn't advance to Bronze, lmao.
I can't count the number of times I've beaten a team by 20+ games during the regular season and then lost to them in the playoffs. PT seems to have the Dodgers as their playoff team prototype.
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Old 07-11-2023, 10:28 AM   #12
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Just a quick recap of the team so far. Champions! is always nice. The team went 134-28 to finish with the second-best record in conference. Those pesky New York Knights beat us 5 of 6 during the regular season and ended with something like a 17-game winning streak and home field advantage. Despite this, we knocked them out in the Conference round and advanced to the World Series, which was a real nail-biter not decided until my DH Chuck Klein belted a solo homer in Game 7, bottom of the 11th inning. Very, very close series against another solid Rookie League team.

Hardware was also harder to come by than I'm used to in Rookie League. Robin Roberts went 25-3, 1.66 to nail down Pitcher of the Year, but there was enough talent elsewhere to take the rest of the conference awards. I also pulled in my expected 40,000 PP from Live Updates, and that got me Perfect Mickey Lolich to add to the rotation.

19-7 through Monday's games in Stone League, with the following lineups and rotation:

CA - Posey backed by Charlie Bennett
1B - Mo Vaughn/Edgar Martinez (Gold version)
2B - Rennie Stennett
3B - Alex Bregman (Topps version)
SS - George Davis (Perfect)
LF - Goose Goslin/Ryan Braun (Topps)
CF - Mookie Betts (Topps)
RF - J.D. Drew
DH - Klein/Howard Johnson
SP - Roberts, Santana, Lolich (all Perfect) plus Leever and Partlow
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Solid advice, Lee. Every new player should be reading this.
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Old 07-11-2023, 10:19 PM   #14
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BTW, thanks for posting this. I started playing PT over the 4th and this really helped get me going. Put no money in, followed this exact advice and have this lineup after completing the Live (currently 38-9 in my rookie league):

C: Posey / Rutschman (88)
1B: Ed Rile (97 - big hit in a pack - also pitches) / Ryan Howard (83)
2B: Stennett / Ketel Marte (90)
SS: Pee Wee / Tinker (90)
3B: Hojo vs R and Ready vs L
LF: Donlin (96)/ Juan Soto (98)
CF: JD Drew (99) / Dimaggio (94) platoon
RF: Betts (98) / Soto
DH: Howard / Soto / Marte

SP: Santana (100), Drysdale, Cone, Cannonball Titcomb (name of the year) & my 1B who also pitches Ed Rile
Dibble (97) is my closer

I would really check out Ryan Howard early on. He's usually 2,500 to buy and has the following stats vs rightys:
84 BABIP, 124 Power, 93 contact, 84 Eye

One quick Q: I figured it was better to start Rile over put him in the pen as he will only pitch once every 5 days (and can play 1B others). He's an 89 rated 1B (Howard is a 59), so I've been playing him at 1B. Would it be better to DH him so that he can also bat when he pitches? And just sacrifice the D on 1B? It's not a huge deal as it gets Juan Soto some ABs - but I've been thinking of switching as Rile is one of my best hitters and I'd like him to hit when he pitches. Also, does hitting and pitching impact his pitching stamina (that was my other fear of DHing him)
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Howard is a very good card for lower level leagues.
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BTW, thanks for posting this. I started playing PT over the 4th and this really helped get me going. Put no money in, followed this exact advice and have this lineup after completing the Live (currently 38-9 in my rookie league):

C: Posey / Rutschman (88)
1B: Ed Rile (97 - big hit in a pack - also pitches) / Ryan Howard (83)
2B: Stennett / Ketel Marte (90)
SS: Pee Wee / Tinker (90)
3B: Hojo vs R and Ready vs L
LF: Donlin (96)/ Juan Soto (98)
CF: JD Drew (99) / Dimaggio (94) platoon
RF: Betts (98) / Soto
DH: Howard / Soto / Marte

SP: Santana (100), Drysdale, Cone, Cannonball Titcomb (name of the year) & my 1B who also pitches Ed Rile
Dibble (97) is my closer

I would really check out Ryan Howard early on. He's usually 2,500 to buy and has the following stats vs rightys:
84 BABIP, 124 Power, 93 contact, 84 Eye

One quick Q: I figured it was better to start Rile over put him in the pen as he will only pitch once every 5 days (and can play 1B others). He's an 89 rated 1B (Howard is a 59), so I've been playing him at 1B. Would it be better to DH him so that he can also bat when he pitches? And just sacrifice the D on 1B? It's not a huge deal as it gets Juan Soto some ABs - but I've been thinking of switching as Rile is one of my best hitters and I'd like him to hit when he pitches. Also, does hitting and pitching impact his pitching stamina (that was my other fear of DHing him)
I can't answer your questions about the two-way player because I don't think I've ever tried it. Howard isn't going to cost you much defensively at first, though. It's the least important position, and the difference between good and bad is only 5 runs or so per season.
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Just looking at this.

Now that it's been about 6-7 weeks since you first posted this primer, does this still hold true? I still have one slot I can start a new team with.
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Yes, it still works. My only quibble with it is doing all the live missions in one day. Relax, you can take the whole week, just have your team in place by Monday of the following week and enjoy the ride.
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Yes, it still works. My only quibble with it is doing all the live missions in one day. Relax, you can take the whole week, just have your team in place by Monday of the following week and enjoy the ride.
Yes, you can take your time with everything and save a few PP by using buy orders instead of quick buys. It's also gotten a little more expensive with the release of All-Star and trade deadline missions, but overall it is still a very good road map and will get you a dominant team through the lower levels of PT.

This team build (Wherever Whatevers) won the championship in Rookie, Stone, and Iron leagues and is currently 55-23 in Silver .252. This is Week 7 of league play, they've made the playoffs every week, and finished first five times.

Current lineup:

Ca - Ted Simmons (100) - BAL mission completion
1B - Mark Teixeira (98) - pack pull
2B - Ben Zobrist (100) - BAL mission completion
3B - Alex Bregman (98) - purchase toward Topps mission completion
SS - George Davis (100) - BAL mission completion
LF - Fred Lynn (100) - Baseball Ref mission completion
CF - Mookie Betts (100) - Topps mission completion
RF - Reggie Smith (100) - BAL mission completion
DH - Johnny Mize (100) - Baseball Ref mission completion

SP - Fergie Jenkins (100) - pack pull
SP - Carl Hubbell (100) - Baseball Ref mission completion
SP - Robin Roberts (100) - BAL mission completion
SP - Mickey Lolich (100) - BAL mission completion
SP - Johan Santana (100) - Live Complete

Bullpen is Rube Foster (100), Bryan Harvey (99), Sam Leever (99), Bobo Newsome (96), Noodles Hahn (95), and Jim St. Vrain (91).

Bench is Joe Mauer (100), Ross Barnes (100), Lance Berkman (97), Ralph Kiner (97), Mo Vaughn (94), and Marwin Gonzalez (88).

edit: note that this team was helped a lot by cashing in about 275,000 PP over the course of the last two live updates, and by pulling LE Fergie Jenkins, who's gone 79-20, 2.65, 21.6 WAR over his three-plus seasons.

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This is a great guide, thank you for posting it's been a lot of help. One question, once you've done all the Live missions, how do you make enough PP to be able to do the other missions such as Build a Lineup? It looks like completing the missions to get the high end BOL cards will be very expensive, maybe upwards of 100k PP in some cases? Would it be cheaper to just buy the topper cards directly from the card store, they seem to go for about 40k each?
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