Confused!??

[albatross11]

Could you guys look at this game log, and explain to me how the run was scored in the top of the 2nd inning? There is no indication in the box score of it being driven in. No balk, passed ball, wild pitch, etc. It is in the final score, and charged to the pitcher as an earned run, but nothing about how it happened. Whassup
Thanks much. (P.S. Only confused about the one run in this half inning. There was already a run scored in the first).

Batting: Monte Cristo, top of 2nd.

Pitching: Daniel Giblin
1B Gregory Stegner:
SINGLES to center
C Paul Calder:
Grounds into fielders choice to the pitcher, Stegner out at 2nd base.
3B Arthur Birdsell:
DOUBLES to the gap in left-center.
P. Calder to third.
LF Albert Griego:
P. Calder scores.
A. Birdsell to third.
Strikes out looking.
2B Greg Duval:
Base on balls.
DH John Haviland:
Strikes out swinging.
Inning over... one run, 2 hits, no errors.
Score: Monte Cristo 2, Timberland 0

[Anonymous Ghost]

Huh, now this is bugging me. I can't figure it out either. Can you also post the complete box score for this game? Thanks.

[albatross11]

Hi "A-Ghost". Don't know if this will help, or not. Thanks much.


BOX SCORES Monte Cristo @ Timberland
Game #: 670, (GAME LOG) , Friday, 5/9/2003


1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 R H E
Monte Cristo 1 1 0 0 0 1 1 0 0 4 8 0
Timberland 0 0 2 0 0 0 0 0 0 2 5 0




Monte Cristo AB R H RBI BB K AVG HR RBI
G. Duval 2B 4 0 0 0 1 1 .306 3 22
J. Haviland DH 5 2 2 1 0 1 .321 4 22
M. Westerlund SS 4 0 1 0 0 1 .314 10 42
B. Shaw CF 3 0 1 1 1 0 .250 5 28
J. Mudd RF 4 0 0 0 0 1 .314 7 23
G. Stegner 1B 3 0 1 0 1 0 .221 0 15
P. Calder C 4 2 1 1 0 0 .204 6 21
A. Birdsell 3B 4 0 1 0 0 0 .327 8 29
A. Griego LF 4 0 1 0 0 2 .266 2 21
Totals 35 4 8 3 3 6

BATTING
Doubles: B. Shaw (7, 1st inning off Giblin, 1 on, 2 out.) A. Birdsell (5, 2nd inning off Giblin, 1 on, 1 out.)
Homeruns: J. Haviland (4, 7th inning off Giblin, 0 on, 0 out.) P. Calder (6, 6th inning off Giblin, 0 on, 1 out.)
Runs Batted In: J. Haviland (22), B. Shaw (28), P. Calder (21)



Timberland AB R H RBI BB K AVG HR RBI
J. Tucker 2B 3 0 0 1 0 2 .261 2 15
J. Rolon PH 1 0 0 0 0 0 .295 1 11
B. Taylor 2B 0 0 0 0 0 0 .154 1 3
C. Baker RF 3 0 1 0 1 0 .286 2 18
M. Guerra 1B 4 0 1 1 0 1 .268 7 25
S. Davis SS 4 0 1 0 0 1 .254 9 27
D. Briggs LF 4 0 0 0 0 3 .333 8 24
J. Olivares DH 4 0 1 0 0 1 .314 6 19
J. Kopf C 3 1 1 0 1 0 .224 0 9
F. Armenta 3B 3 1 0 0 1 0 .287 6 23
J. Pylant CF 1 0 0 0 2 1 .289 5 13
Totals 30 2 5 2 5 9

BATTING
Doubles: J. Olivares (9, 9th inning off Kisho, 0 on, 1 out.)
Runs Batted In: J. Tucker (15), M. Guerra (25)
Caught Stealing: C. Baker (2)



Monte Cristo IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD
M. Cato W 7 4 2 2 5 8 117 63 4.48 4-2
G. Read H 1 0 0 0 0 0 8 6 5.50
Y. Kisho S 1 1 0 0 0 1 12 9 3.38 10 SV

PITCHING
Batters Faced: M. Cato 28, G. Read 3, Y. Kisho 4
Ground Balls-Fly Balls: M. Cato 9-2, G. Read 3-0, Y. Kisho 2-0
Game Score: M. Cato 64



Timberland IP H R ER BB K PI PS ERA RECORD
D. Giblin L 8.2 8 4 4 3 6 124 76 4.58 5-4
G. Leeds 0.1 0 0 0 0 0 5 3 10.80

PITCHING
Batters Faced: D. Giblin 37, G. Leeds 1
Ground Balls-Fly Balls: D. Giblin 16-4, G. Leeds 1-0
Game Score: D. Giblin 55



GAME INFO
Time: 3:18
Attendance: 37343 (41048) at Buck Leonard Field
Weather: Clear skies (73 degrees), wind blowing in from center at 13 mph
PLAYER OF THE GAME: Mark Cato
Game Notes:
Mark Cato sets a career high for K's in a game! Mark Cato gives up a career high number of walks in this game. Arthur Birdsell extends his hitting streak to a career high 11 games! Justin Kopf extends his hitting streak to a career high 7 games! Yoshiakira Kisho sets a new season Team-Record for Games with 19!

[Henry]

My guess is a wild pitch. SInce they are not "scored" in the game, there wouldn't be any indication of it after the fact.

[albatross11]

Thanks, Henry, but doesn't it usually say "wild pitch" in the pitching recaps?

[Steve Kuffrey]

I'm not sure if they would be in the log currently as the log is "primarily" for the scoring of plays, though if they aren't they should be. I'm going to check now for this.

[blmeanie]

Originally posted by albatross11

3B Arthur Birdsell:
DOUBLES to the gap in left-center.
P. Calder to third.
LF Albert Griego:
P. Calder scores.
A. Birdsell to third.
Strikes out looking.

What if the output was in the wrong order for one line :

3B Arthur Birdsell:
DOUBLES to the gap in left-center.
P. Calder to third.
P. Calder scores.
A. Birdsell to third.
LF Albert Griego:
Strikes out looking.


Now it looks like the pbp does in the game when it tells you that the runner reached third, then in the next line it tells you he scored (from the double). Birdsell must have gone to third on the throw home.

Just my theory.

[albatross11]

That's a good point, blmeanie, but it doesn't account for the fact that the box score only shows 3 runs batted in for the game. 4 runs were scored total. I see where the 3 RBI occured, but can't figure out this 4th "phantom" run.

[Steve Kuffrey]

I'm not 100% sure, but I did a search of a folder that contained "game logs" for the words "wild pitch" and no instances were found. This is a league that has had wild pitches happen so I'm thinking that the logs don't record them and that is probably the stituation here.

[albatross11]

Thanks for checking, Steve. I did pretty much the same thing, and I found "wild pitch" in some game logs, and box scores in the pitching recap. I DID NOT find any instance where a run occured because of a wild pitch. Don't know if that means anything. Just another mystery, I guess.

[Steve Kuffrey]

How did you search exactly becuase I didn't come up with the words in any of the searches.

[albatross11]

I just went back through the games that had been played in my solo fictional league. I stopped counting after I found about 7 instances of wild pitches occuring. In those games, no run scored due to the wild pitch (runners did advance), so I guess it's not the same as the original post. Maybe what you (and Henry) said is what happened...a wild pitch, but it wasn't recorded in the game log. Still don't see why it wouldn't have been mentioned in the pitching recap.

[Steve Kuffrey]

I'm not sure, but it is something to look more closely at.

[albatross11]

I ask some weird questions, don't I? Sorry, but thanks to everyone for their time, efforts, and replies.

[Eric]

What about passed balls? Would they show up in the box score?
Maybe Calder scored on a passed ball when Griego was up. That would account for the missing RBI.

[albatross11]

Hi Eric,
Good thought, and I figured you were on to something. But, checking back, I see that neither the pitcher, nor the catcher involved have been charged with either a WP, or a PB, respectively. Thanks again.

[Scott Vibert]

The "missing" RBI could have scored on a Double Play. You don't get an RBI if you ground into a double play.

[albatross11]

Hiya Scott,
There was no DP in the inning. Thanks, anyway.