All Amazin' League

[Leiter22]

I decided to start a franchise that I don't think anyone has done before (at least not on this board). I created a league that has every player who played for the New York Mets during their 1st 40 years of play (1962-2001). The year that is used for each player is the player's first year on the Mets (ie Mike Piazza's 1998 season). It is a 20 team league (2 leagues with 2 divisions of 5 teams) with an intial player draft. Results of the draft will be up soon

[GForce22]

hehehe...this could be a fun watch.

GH

[Leiter22]

could be a slight delay because I realized there are a couple of mistakes in the rosters I made

[Leiter22]

Here are the results from the 1st Round of the Draft. There were some very interesting picks (Year in parenthesis)

Round 1:

Blues pick: P Dwight Gooden (1984)
Valentines pick: P Al Leiter (1998)
New York pick: 1B Rico Brogna (1994, hit .350 in 40 games)
Miracles pick: P Rick Reed (1997)
Greys pick: P Bob Ojeda (1986)
Stengels pick: C Mike Piazza (1998)
Blacks pick: LF Bernard Gilkey (1996)
Wilpons pick: P Gary Gentry (1969)
Cashens pick: P Sid Fernandez (1984)
Johnsons pick: LF Rickey Henderson (1999)
Sheas pick: P Tom Seaver (1967)
Pinstripes pick: 3B Robin Ventura (1999)
Gils pick: P Mickey Lolich (1976)
Whites pick: CF Lance Johnson (1996)
Paysons pick: P Frank Viola (1989)
Doubledays pick: RF Roger Cedeno (1999)
Queens pick: P Mike Hampton (2000)
Amazin's pick: P Bill Pulsipher (1995)
Orange pick: C Gary Carter (1985)
Flushings pick: P Jason Isringhausen (1995)

[metsgeek]

Always interested in a Mets theme

[NYJuggalo45]

is Nolan Ryan in this? if so, WOW for not being a 1st rounder

[lgkeeper]

Very interesting idea...never seen anything like this before. And, since it's the Mets, someon has to actually win each game which gives us Mets fans a ray of hope...

[GForce22]

Originally posted by NYJuggalo45
is Nolan Ryan in this? if so, WOW for not being a 1st rounder

remember, he's using their first year, ryan became great later.

gh

[NYJuggalo45]

but wouldn't his talents all be Brilliant?

[GForce22]

depends how he imported them I suppose.

GH

[OakA's/NYMets]

Any chance i can get a copy of this league? I'd love to try it myself

[slackmeisterPA]

wait so is Buckner in this league?

wow it hurts so much it's funny...

[Leiter22]

Ryan is a perfect example of one of the flaws of using the players from their 1st year with the Mets. There were a lot of good players who at that point in their careers are no where close to being ready (causing them to go late in the draft)

CF Preston Wilson, SP Jerry Koosman, CF Cleon Jones, OF Amos Otis, SS Bud Harrelson, 1B Mike Jorgenson, 3B Kevin Mitchell, SP Nolan Ryan, and C Todd Hundley are the biggest victims of this since none of them are above AA.

[blubbla]

Heck -- Hundley belongs in AA ... no big loss there...

[metsgeek]

Originally posted by NYJuggalo45
but wouldn't his talents all be Brilliant?

You're kidding me, right? Ryan would certainly not have Brilliant in the Walks category....most likely Poor. He averaged over 100 free passes per season in his 27 year career. He even gave up 200+ BB in a season TWICE!!

The man could pitch, but I'd take a couple other Mets pitchers over him.

Nolan Ryan's Career Stats

[NYJuggalo45]

i know he didn't have great control or even an ERA for that matter but he imports pretty good from lahman

[Leiter22]

Update Time:

Nolan Ryan's ratings are Brilliant, Average, Average, Fair, Good, with a velocity of 9. Since he's in AA his avoid runs is only 1. After 1 season of this frnachise I think I'm going to do a version with a player's best season with the Mets (ie Hundley's 96 or 97 season instead of his rookie year). This would add a lot more talent in the league and would also be a better representation of Mets history. I was away this weekend so I didn't start simming the season yet, but an update will come very soon.

[bsbll_n_mn]

i love your idea

question:
how will you determine best year? people have different opinions

question 2:
has anyone done a twins one? i'm gonna start and if someone has please tell me so i don't go through that much work

[bsbll_n_mn]

question 3:
where did you find a list of every met player?

[Leiter22]

Update After the 1st 2 Weeks

It's only 2 weeks into the season, but Rico Brogna is clearly justifying the fact that he was the 3rd overall pick in the draft. After the 1st 13 games of the season, Brogna is hitting .511 with 6 homers, 18 rbi, and an ops of 1.592. Unfortunately for New York they find themselves at just 6-7 despite the performances of Brogna, Shawon Dunston (.415 avg), and John Candelaria (opening day no-hitter). They currently find themselves 4 games behind the division leading Amazin's for 1st place in Division 1.

The Amazin' pitching staff has been unhittable, sporting a team era of just 1.78. With 13 of the 20 teams pitching to an era under 3.50 it's clear that the pitchers have had the upper hand so far.

The Orange are leading Division 2 with an 8-5 thanks in part to a top of the order of Carlos Baerga, Timo Perez, and Gary Carter. The Blues are just a game back because an unhittable Dwight Gooden (2-0 0.42). With every team within 2 games of each other, this appears to be the closest division in the league.

The Paysons are leading Division 3 with a lineup that has been led by Jeff Kent (4 homers) and the late inning duo of Dennis Cook and Jesse Orosco (12.2 shutout innings). Despite Tom Seaver's 1.07 era the Sheas have struggled so far, currently sitting in 3rd Place.

The Wilpons are in 1st place in Division 4 with a 9-4 record. Steve Henderson is hitting .381 with 4 homers and the pitching staff has been dominant, led by Gary Gentry's 0.82 era. The Pinstripes are just 1 game back despite slow starts by Jeromy Burnitz and George Foster.

League Standings Report
Monday, 4/14/2003
Home Standings

Division 1

Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10
Amazin's 10 3 .769 - 10-3 0 6-2 4-1 0-0 5-1 146 L1 8-2
New York 6 7 .462 4.0 7-6 -1 4-4 2-3 0-1 2-1 - L1 5-5
Flushings 5 8 .385 5.0 4-9 1 3-4 2-4 0-1 2-1 - W1 3-7
Miracles 5 8 .385 5.0 6-7 -1 4-4 1-4 3-1 2-4 - W2 3-7
Queens 4 9 .308 6.0 6-7 -2 1-4 3-5 0-2 1-5 - L1 3-7

Division 2

Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10
Orange 8 5 .615 - 7-6 1 5-3 3-2 1-1 4-2 149 W1 7-3
Blues 7 6 .538 1.0 5-8 2 4-1 3-5 2-0 3-2 - W1 7-3
Greys 7 6 .538 1.0 7-6 0 3-2 4-4 0-1 3-1 - L2 4-6
Whites 7 6 .538 1.0 9-4 -2 3-2 4-4 1-1 1-3 - L1 5-5
Blacks 6 7 .462 2.0 6-7 0 2-4 4-3 1-0 1-4 - W1 5-5

Away Standings

Division 3

Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10
Paysons 9 4 .692 - 8-5 1 5-3 4-1 5-0 5-0 148 W3 8-2
Doubledays 7 6 .538 2.0 6-7 1 3-2 4-4 1-0 3-2 - W2 6-4
Sheas 6 7 .462 3.0 5-8 1 3-5 3-2 0-0 3-2 - L2 4-6
Cashens 5 8 .385 4.0 7-6 -2 2-6 3-2 0-2 1-5 - L3 3-7
Valentines 4 9 .308 5.0 5-8 -1 1-4 3-5 0-4 0-4 - L5 3-7

Division 4

Team W L PCT GB Pyt.Rec Diff Home Away XInn 1Run M# Streak Last10
Wilpons 9 4 .692 - 9-4 0 3-3 6-1 0-0 2-2 149 W2 7-3
Pinstripes 8 5 .615 1.0 9-4 -1 3-4 5-1 0-0 2-2 - L1 5-5
Gils 6 7 .462 3.0 5-8 1 1-6 5-1 1-1 2-1 - W3 4-6
Stengels 6 7 .462 3.0 6-7 0 1-4 5-3 0-0 3-3 - W1 5-5
Johnsons 5 8 .385 4.0 4-9 1 1-5 4-3 0-0 2-2 - L2 5-5