Beyond Frustrated and Done

AlpineSK · 02-19-2023, 06:27 PM

I'm at my whit's end right now.

Its no real secret how I feel about this game's AI's ability to manage rosters and transactions, so I decided to abandon playing a historical or modern day game and try my luck at creating my own fictional baseball world.

So I went back to 1973 and created the American Professional Baseball Association, with the "lore" being a response to the labor issues that started in 1972. I created fictional players. Teams with logos. Fictional ballparks for each team with accurate long/lat's for their respective cities.

I expanded the league four times bringing it up to 28 teams. My plan was to sim to the 30th anniversary of the league, expand one more time, and take over the team of my choice. I even started drafting the "History of the League" document complete with a profile of one of the greatest hitters that I've ever encountered in the game with the intent of starting a Franchise thread here on the board.

I made it to 2000 this morning, and logged out to take a break and spend the day with my family. I got home 15 minutes ago, went to log in, and BAM! There it was: "OOTP cannot load this database because it has been created with an earlier version of OOTP. Please use the button "Import OOTP22" to import the database." followed by: "The loading of the database failed. It is either corrupt or a save-game from an old version."

In 18 years of playing this game I've never once had this happen. Absolutely positively RIDICULOUS. That's probably around 16 hours of work just down the friggin tubes.

I'm so done with this game and this franchise, but being around as long as I have been, I figured I'd jump in here and see if anyone had any suggestions because I'm at my whit's end.

MAYBL8 · 02-19-2023, 06:32 PM

Did you make any backups that you might be able to use?

AlpineSK · 02-19-2023, 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by MAYBL8

Did you make any backups that you might be able to use?

Nope. I hadn't yet. I was planning to when I hit 30 years. This has always been an incredibly stable game for me, so I wasn't chomping at the bit to do it.

MAYBL8 · 02-19-2023, 06:49 PM

I don't know how it works but there is a setting for Autosave. Maybe something there.

AlpineSK · 02-19-2023, 06:53 PM

Thanks... I'm going to play around a bit and see what happens. I appreciate the reply.

AlpineSK · 02-19-2023, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by MAYBL8

I don't know how it works but there is a setting for Autosave. Maybe something there.

Dude, I could kiss you. It looks like I might have gotten everything to recover.

mytreds · 02-19-2023, 07:14 PM

Glad it might work out for you. I feel your frustration. I had to nuke a save because the save feature is from the Stone Age and I accidentally quit normally instead using task manager.

Germaniac · 02-20-2023, 11:20 AM

To avoid such problems I zip my entire league file at the end of each league calendar year and put it on an external drive.

MAYBL8 · 02-20-2023, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by AlpineSK

Dude, I could kiss you. It looks like I might have gotten everything to recover.

Glad I could help.
I know when you panic about something you can't think straight.

With anything computer related it is always a good idea to back things up.
You just never know when something goes bad.
Good luck.
Dan

Bobfather · 02-20-2023, 11:57 AM

I back up before every game
Plus auto save when I advance a day.
To OP now that your issue was solved are you still quitting the game?

oldfatbaldguy · 02-20-2023, 05:41 PM

What Bobfather said. I auto-save every day and it takes no time at all. I also use the games internal backup system every time I close the game, and that takes very little time.

mitchkenn · 02-20-2023, 06:47 PM

i auto save each week. i back-up after every game session - usually i sim 6 to 10 days at a time, and make a back-up then. it's time consuming at times, but it's saved my game (brought up from 20 to 23 now) more than a handful of times. Back-ups should be auto built in along the lines of auto-save in my opinion.

The Game · 02-20-2023, 11:35 PM

There is a fix for the "created with earlier version" i know i googled this for someone else in November time frame. i thought it was fixed in one of the last 2 patches.

zappa1 · 02-20-2023, 11:48 PM

This is the same exact thing that happened to me weeks ago. I lost my 1969 season because of it. That same exact error message also. And this never happened to me before, either.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=288853 Read the second post by Lukas Berger.

zappa1 · 02-21-2023, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by The Game

There is a fix for the "created with earlier version" i know i googled this for someone else in November time frame. i thought it was fixed in one of the last 2 patches.

That was me I believe Game. You replied to my post to see if you could help me out. It works because I had the problem a second time and it fixed it. The first time my season got corrupted I was so frustrated, I deleted it before I could try to save it. Thanks for that link. I never would have found it.

Hageneezz · 02-21-2023, 09:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AlpineSK

I'm at my whit's end right now.

Its no real secret how I feel about this game's AI's ability to manage rosters and transactions, so I decided to abandon playing a historical or modern day game and try my luck at creating my own fictional baseball world.

So I went back to 1973 and created the American Professional Baseball Association, with the "lore" being a response to the labor issues that started in 1972. I created fictional players. Teams with logos. Fictional ballparks for each team with accurate long/lat's for their respective cities.

I expanded the league four times bringing it up to 28 teams. My plan was to sim to the 30th anniversary of the league, expand one more time, and take over the team of my choice. I even started drafting the "History of the League" document complete with a profile of one of the greatest hitters that I've ever encountered in the game with the intent of starting a Franchise thread here on the board.

I made it to 2000 this morning, and logged out to take a break and spend the day with my family. I got home 15 minutes ago, went to log in, and BAM! There it was: "OOTP cannot load this database because it has been created with an earlier version of OOTP. Please use the button "Import OOTP22" to import the database." followed by: "The loading of the database failed. It is either corrupt or a save-game from an old version."

In 18 years of playing this game I've never once had this happen. Absolutely positively RIDICULOUS. That's probably around 16 hours of work just down the friggin tubes.

I'm so done with this game and this franchise, but being around as long as I have been, I figured I'd jump in here and see if anyone had any suggestions because I'm at my whit's end.

I understand your anger and frustrations...so glad it got fixed in the end!

02-19-2023, 06:27 PM	#1
AlpineSK All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bear, DE Posts: 1,640	Beyond Frustrated and Done I'm at my whit's end right now. Its no real secret how I feel about this game's AI's ability to manage rosters and transactions, so I decided to abandon playing a historical or modern day game and try my luck at creating my own fictional baseball world. So I went back to 1973 and created the American Professional Baseball Association, with the "lore" being a response to the labor issues that started in 1972. I created fictional players. Teams with logos. Fictional ballparks for each team with accurate long/lat's for their respective cities. I expanded the league four times bringing it up to 28 teams. My plan was to sim to the 30th anniversary of the league, expand one more time, and take over the team of my choice. I even started drafting the "History of the League" document complete with a profile of one of the greatest hitters that I've ever encountered in the game with the intent of starting a Franchise thread here on the board. I made it to 2000 this morning, and logged out to take a break and spend the day with my family. I got home 15 minutes ago, went to log in, and BAM! There it was: "OOTP cannot load this database because it has been created with an earlier version of OOTP. Please use the button "Import OOTP22" to import the database." followed by: "The loading of the database failed. It is either corrupt or a save-game from an old version." In 18 years of playing this game I've never once had this happen. Absolutely positively RIDICULOUS. That's probably around 16 hours of work just down the friggin tubes. I'm so done with this game and this franchise, but being around as long as I have been, I figured I'd jump in here and see if anyone had any suggestions because I'm at my whit's end. Attached Images __________________ Check out my Sims!! 2013 Boston Red Sox Or my blogs: http://www.medicsbk.com The Sports Medic

02-19-2023, 06:53 PM	#5
AlpineSK All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Bear, DE Posts: 1,640	Thanks... I'm going to play around a bit and see what happens. I appreciate the reply. __________________ Check out my Sims!! 2013 Boston Red Sox Or my blogs: http://www.medicsbk.com The Sports Medic

02-19-2023, 07:14 PM	#7
mytreds All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 1,182	Glad it might work out for you. I feel your frustration. I had to nuke a save because the save feature is from the Stone Age and I accidentally quit normally instead using task manager. __________________ “Baseball isn’t statistics; it’s Joe DiMaggio rounding second.” “Once, centuries ago, it was the beloved national pastime of the Americas, Wesley. Abandoned by a society that prized fast food and faster games. Lost to impatience.” “ The term ‘WAR’ should be replaced by ‘WAG’. WAR isn’t an actual measurement; it’s just a wild-ass guess” -Bill James RIP National League 1876-2022 Floreat semper vel invita morte. I make custom ballparks.

02-20-2023, 11:20 AM	#8
Germaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Frankenthal, Germany Posts: 3,070	To avoid such problems I zip my entire league file at the end of each league calendar year and put it on an external drive. __________________ I'm going to have to meet my Maker some day. And if He asks me why I didn't let this boy play, and I say it's because he's black, that might not be a satisfactory answer. Happy Chandler, 1947

02-20-2023, 11:57 AM	#10
Bobfather All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Boston Ma. Posts: 1,682	I back up before every game Plus auto save when I advance a day. To OP now that your issue was solved are you still quitting the game? __________________ I play out every game—one pitch mode.

02-19-2023, 06:32 PM	#2
MAYBL8 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 64	Did you make any backups that you might be able to use?

02-19-2023, 06:49 PM	#4
MAYBL8 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2013 Posts: 64	I don't know how it works but there is a setting for Autosave. Maybe something there.

02-20-2023, 05:41 PM	#11
oldfatbaldguy Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2020 Posts: 393	What Bobfather said. I auto-save every day and it takes no time at all. I also use the games internal backup system every time I close the game, and that takes very little time.

02-20-2023, 06:47 PM	#12
mitchkenn Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2015 Location: Oregon, not by design Posts: 2,872	i auto save each week. i back-up after every game session - usually i sim 6 to 10 days at a time, and make a back-up then. it's time consuming at times, but it's saved my game (brought up from 20 to 23 now) more than a handful of times. Back-ups should be auto built in along the lines of auto-save in my opinion. __________________ "This is my opening farewell " - Jackson Browne “They make a desolation and call it peace.” ― Agha Shahid Ali "Maybe she just has to sing, for the sake of the song - And who do I think that I am to decide that she's wrong." - Townes Van Zandt "I saw a young man leaning on his wooden crutch - He called out to me, 'Don't ask for so much' And a young woman leaning in her darkened door She cried out to me, 'Why not ask for more?' " - Leonard Cohen "Hello darkness, my old Friend ...." - Paul Simon Before Mays, before DiMaggio, there was Oscar Charleston. "All the lies about Babe Ruth are true." - Waite Hoyt Avatar is the late great Townes Van Zandt. rip.

02-20-2023, 11:35 PM	#13
The Game Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: Inside The Game Posts: 30,937	There is a fix for the "created with earlier version" i know i googled this for someone else in November time frame. i thought it was fixed in one of the last 2 patches. __________________ Go today don't wait for tomorrow It isn't promised, all the time you get borrowed Don't live your life for other people Don't bottle your emotions till they crack and fill a couple just sorrows Take your mind and refocus go get a paper write your goals out Throw your middle fingers to all your haters "Stay Strong"

02-20-2023, 11:48 PM	#14
zappa1 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Pennsylvania Posts: 2,147	This is the same exact thing that happened to me weeks ago. I lost my 1969 season because of it. That same exact error message also. And this never happened to me before, either. https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=288853 Read the second post by Lukas Berger. Last edited by zappa1; 02-21-2023 at 12:16 AM.