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Minors (Single A)
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Amateur draft college stats
In a standard MLB game structure, how much if any weight do you give to college stats when it comes to drafting? Some college comps are listed as having a 'great' competition level so can this be a useful and useable factor in draft selection? Thanks!
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I tend to go with my scouts more often, but I usually use stats a little more in the later rounds when I am torn between a couple guys. I found a CF that played at Alabama that hit .410 and had a really good on base and walked a lot, like 2 to 1. He ended up developing into a really good player and won the batting title 3 times in his 14 year career and retired with a career .317 average and piled up 2821 hits.
It doesn't always work out that way, but I have hit on a few guys by factoring in stats over ratings. Last edited by ohiodevil; 12-14-2022 at 06:56 AM. |
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Like Ohiodevil I go with my scouts evaluations first. Afterall they are projecting those players as to how they think they'll turn out at an MLB level. Then too, same as OD, I may use stats as "tie breaker" for similar players along with their intangibles.
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Thank you for both replies, this is helpful.
I am going through a pre-draft stage (it's March in my save) where i am getting lots of scout reports and making a decision for each potential draftee, regarding them as a probable, a possible or a non-runner for my final personal draft day list. Tie-breakers are nice to have in these often difficult decisions so that is how I will use the better quality college stats thanks again! If it's the case that HS and low level college stats are not likely reliable indicators of future performance at higher levels (which makes sense to me) I'll not use those at all or much. I like this side of the game very much and find myself investing quite a bit of time in it. |
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Agree with the above. I prefer drafting guys with at least some college, because [1] they are much easier to project; and [2] they are much closer to MLB, than high school guys. Admittedly that’s partly because I play out games and don’t sim years at a time. So I literally could be waiting years for that 18-year-old phenom to hit the show.
OOTP seems to recognize the distinction between cold-weather and warm-weather schools. The guys playing in the south have longer seasons and play more games. The competition is also better, and again OOTP seems to reflect that. In recent times, a good solid four-year player in the SEC should be able to slide into A+ or even AA right out of college. That works for me.
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This is about the NFL of college, it suggests that if you play and succeed in the SEC, you are well prepared for life at the highest level of football. Murray himself claimed "SEC players, for the most part, are more NFL-ready than a lot of players coming from other parts of the country". I am preparing for the next football season because there has been a problem with my entry into the local team this year. At the same time, I study at a university of history. It is hard, so I more help from several good experts who can rewrite my essays and provide support with other papers and assignments. My mother dreams of a history professor son, while my father wants to see a professional football player. Due to the academic support I get, I bet I can develop my potential in both areas, so I will be ready for the NFL.
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The reasons to completely ignore high school stats should be self evident. Unless a guy is playing against the best college competition, which would equate to somewhere around High A in the pros, college stats can be ignored too. Most guys on college squads are not pro prospects so it's hard to judge pro potential against that competition. If you're good enough to play for a college team in a good D1 conference you can hold your own in the low minors, but that's about it as far as potential is concerned. Only the best of the best get drafted, and that's a small percentage of guys.
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Consider how different prep basketball is. The best players go to a few schools, either big public high schools, typically in urban areas, or Catholic schools, or those private schools around the country that exist basically to groom basketball players. And the guys from these schools typically match up in tournaments. That makes it easier for scouts to see them in real competition. And they are much closer to being NBA-ready at 18 or 19 than most any baseball players. I saw Blake Griffin play in a holiday tournament as a high school senior, against good opposition. It was obvious he was very close to being ready to play at the highest level. Baseball talent is strewn all ove the place, and guys can come from almost anywhere, although the odds are better with warm weather and year-round play, in the U.S. or the Caribbean.
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