Western Conference

Dwolfson20 · 05-10-2003, 06:19 PM

Who wins now that Webber is out?

AccardoOutfit29 · 05-10-2003, 06:22 PM

Definitely the Spurs. Big fan of them. If David Robinson can recover from his swollen balls.

Dwolfson20 · 05-10-2003, 06:23 PM

Yeah, right you will. They count here; have you forgotten that?

twins15 · 05-10-2003, 10:14 PM

I still think the Lakers will ride Kobe and Shaq for their 4th straight title. But I have to say, do not underestimate the Kings just because Webber is out. They still have a lot of firepower.

LivnLegend · 05-11-2003, 11:14 AM

Call me a homer, but I'm sticking with the Lakers to win it all.

Dwolfson20 · 05-11-2003, 12:06 PM

OK, homer.

PS: I agree with you.

Kezzek · 05-11-2003, 01:33 PM

Y'all are high.

Lakers!?

fantom1979 · 05-11-2003, 06:15 PM

I pick the Pistons... oh hold on, its only hockey that thinks Detroit is a Western city.

kingfc22 · 05-12-2003, 11:50 PM

Lakers. Yes, I did say the Lakers will win AGAIN!!!

Matt Davis · 05-13-2003, 01:53 AM

Lakers, only if the nba and the refs throws the games in their favor some more.

NYJuggalo45 · 05-13-2003, 08:02 AM

screw it, i'll take the Mavs

hamonrye · 05-13-2003, 11:33 AM

damn, the community manager of 400 software studios new basketball title thinks the nba and the refs are throwing games to the lakers? guess i'll have to skip that game...

Matt Davis · 05-13-2003, 05:00 PM

Lol, Let me state, my opinion does not reflect what 400's opinion is of the lakers or any other western conference team.

As for the games themselves, its quite obvious. For one look at last years Western Conference Finals, it was quite obvious the nba wanted the series to extend to 7 games so the refs helped with that by making really crappy calls in the lakers favor in the games so they could win. The same will happen this year.

hamonrye · 05-13-2003, 05:44 PM

quite obvious? because ralph nader said so? home teams get calls in the nba, that's the way it has been and always will be.

Matt Davis · 05-13-2003, 05:51 PM

Of course they do, but the lakers also get more than any other team.

twins15 · 05-13-2003, 06:47 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Matt Davis
Of course they do, but the lakers also get more than any other team.

Please explain more. Obviously the refs miss some calls, but how do the Lakers get more calls than any other team?

fantom1979 · 05-13-2003, 06:59 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by twins15
Please explain more. Obviously the refs miss some calls, but how do the Lakers get more calls than any other team?

Please feel free to review Game 3 of the first round series against Minnesota or Game 6 of the 2002 Western Finals against Sacremento. Those are the two worst I can think of.

twins15 · 05-13-2003, 07:03 PM

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Originally posted by fantom1979
Please feel free to review Game 3 of the first round series against Minnesota or Game 6 of the 2002 Western Finals against Sacremento. Those are the two worst I can think of.

I don't quite remember the games offhand, but I am guessing they had something to do with Shaq running over people. All I have to say about that, in defense of the refs, that it is hard to call some fouls when Vlade Divac is flopping almost every other play. It is hard to tell when Vlade is flopping, and when he is not flopping. If Vlade would play him straight, maybe he would get a little more repsect from the refs.

Matt Davis · 05-13-2003, 07:04 PM

Especially Game 6, I always got the feeling after watching that game that the nba purposely threw that game for the lakers no matter how good Sacramento would of played.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 05-13-2003, 07:07 PM

My reply to everyone who complains about Shaq not getting called for offensive fouls:

I have no problem with the refs calling all of Shaq's offensive fouls, as he does indeed knock people over 4-5 times a game without it getting called.

However, if this is to be the case, then every time Shaq gets hacked on the arm or bumped on the shoulder it should be called too. This happens probably 40-50 times a game without it getting called.

Those of you who are big fans of San Antonio, Sacramento, etc. might think you want all the fouls called in games in which Shaq's involved. However, I don't think this is really what you want. If ALL the fouls both ways were called, Shaq might foul out, but would likely score about 70 points before doing so. What you really want is for the refs to be more slanted against the Lakers.

05-10-2003, 06:19 PM	#1
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	Western Conference Who wins now that Webber is out? __________________

05-10-2003, 06:23 PM	#3
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	Yeah, right you will. They count here; have you forgotten that? __________________

05-10-2003, 10:14 PM	#4
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	I still think the Lakers will ride Kobe and Shaq for their 4th straight title. But I have to say, do not underestimate the Kings just because Webber is out. They still have a lot of firepower. __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

05-11-2003, 11:14 AM	#5
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Call me a homer, but I'm sticking with the Lakers to win it all. __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

05-11-2003, 12:06 PM	#6
Dwolfson20 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Not St. Louis Posts: 2,872	OK, homer. PS: I agree with you. __________________

05-10-2003, 06:22 PM	#2
AccardoOutfit29 All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 531	Definitely the Spurs. Big fan of them. If David Robinson can recover from his swollen balls.

05-11-2003, 01:33 PM	#7
Kezzek All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Keyboard - frantically typing in subtle insults to raise my self-esteem Posts: 973	Y'all are high. Lakers!? __________________ - Kez, P.E.

05-11-2003, 06:15 PM	#8
fantom1979 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3,498	I pick the Pistons... oh hold on, its only hockey that thinks Detroit is a Western city. __________________

05-12-2003, 11:50 PM	#9
kingfc22 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Fremont, CA Posts: 651	Lakers. Yes, I did say the Lakers will win AGAIN!!! __________________ GO GIANTS GO NINERS GO LAKERS GO BLUE CUBL - Red Earth Firebirds 2000 CL Central Champs NABL - Washington Senators now Buffalo Bandits

05-13-2003, 01:53 AM	#10
Matt Davis Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tavares, Florida Posts: 148	Lakers, only if the nba and the refs throws the games in their favor some more. __________________ Matt Davis (Smerfmatt) Total Pro Basketball Assistant Community Manager .400 Software Studios Need Webhosting for anything or for a simleague. Check http://simleagues.com/ Remember to say smerfmatt sent you so you can get a discount.

05-13-2003, 08:02 AM	#11
NYJuggalo45 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 2,045	screw it, i'll take the Mavs __________________ This space for rent

05-13-2003, 11:33 AM	#12
hamonrye Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 335	damn, the community manager of 400 software studios new basketball title thinks the nba and the refs are throwing games to the lakers? guess i'll have to skip that game...

05-13-2003, 05:00 PM	#13
Matt Davis Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tavares, Florida Posts: 148	Lol, Let me state, my opinion does not reflect what 400's opinion is of the lakers or any other western conference team. As for the games themselves, its quite obvious. For one look at last years Western Conference Finals, it was quite obvious the nba wanted the series to extend to 7 games so the refs helped with that by making really crappy calls in the lakers favor in the games so they could win. The same will happen this year. __________________ Matt Davis (Smerfmatt) Total Pro Basketball Assistant Community Manager .400 Software Studios Need Webhosting for anything or for a simleague. Check http://simleagues.com/ Remember to say smerfmatt sent you so you can get a discount.

05-13-2003, 05:44 PM	#14
hamonrye Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 335	quite obvious? because ralph nader said so? home teams get calls in the nba, that's the way it has been and always will be.

05-13-2003, 05:51 PM	#15
Matt Davis Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tavares, Florida Posts: 148	Of course they do, but the lakers also get more than any other team. __________________ Matt Davis (Smerfmatt) Total Pro Basketball Assistant Community Manager .400 Software Studios Need Webhosting for anything or for a simleague. Check http://simleagues.com/ Remember to say smerfmatt sent you so you can get a discount.

05-13-2003, 07:04 PM	#19
Matt Davis Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Tavares, Florida Posts: 148	Especially Game 6, I always got the feeling after watching that game that the nba purposely threw that game for the lakers no matter how good Sacramento would of played. __________________ Matt Davis (Smerfmatt) Total Pro Basketball Assistant Community Manager .400 Software Studios Need Webhosting for anything or for a simleague. Check http://simleagues.com/ Remember to say smerfmatt sent you so you can get a discount.

05-13-2003, 07:07 PM	#20
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	My reply to everyone who complains about Shaq not getting called for offensive fouls: I have no problem with the refs calling all of Shaq's offensive fouls, as he does indeed knock people over 4-5 times a game without it getting called. However, if this is to be the case, then every time Shaq gets hacked on the arm or bumped on the shoulder it should be called too. This happens probably 40-50 times a game without it getting called. Those of you who are big fans of San Antonio, Sacramento, etc. might think you want all the fouls called in games in which Shaq's involved. However, I don't think this is really what you want. If ALL the fouls both ways were called, Shaq might foul out, but would likely score about 70 points before doing so. What you really want is for the refs to be more slanted against the Lakers. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.