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Old 07-23-2022, 04:19 AM   #1
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Raw Movement vs. View Movement

I see that pitchers in OOTP23 have 2 lines for movement now, Raw and View.



But I can't find anywhere a statement of which one the game actually uses when determining outcomes. (I searched the manual and the past 100 posts using "raw movement" before giving up, so I did try . . .)


So, even though it's an easy question someone has probably asked before, can someone tell me?


Thanks in advance.
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Old 07-23-2022, 05:01 AM   #2
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The game uses groundball% and raw movement to determine outcomes, so in a sense, it's raw movement. But view movement is just raw movement combined with groundball%, so in a sense, it's view movement. It's a bit of a philosophical question.
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:09 PM   #3
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The game uses groundball% and raw movement to determine outcomes, so in a sense, it's raw movement. But view movement is just raw movement combined with groundball%, so in a sense, it's view movement. It's a bit of a philosophical question.

Perhaps I should have been a little more specific in my first post. Here's what prompted my question.


I'm trying to play a historical league. I'm manipulating some ratings myself. I'm working on the assumption that the player's real life career HR rate already takes into account his GB% and everything else.



I need to know if the pitcher's historical movement rating should equate to his Raw Movement or his View Movement.
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Old 07-23-2022, 08:34 PM   #4
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Perhaps I should have been a little more specific in my first post. Here's what prompted my question.


I'm trying to play a historical league. I'm manipulating some ratings myself. I'm working on the assumption that the player's real life career HR rate already takes into account his GB% and everything else.



I need to know if the pitcher's historical movement rating should equate to his Raw Movement or his View Movement.
The View Movement correlates directly to homerun rate. Raw Movement only correlates to homerun rate holding GB% fixed.
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Old 07-24-2022, 02:47 AM   #5
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The View Movement correlates directly to homerun rate. Raw Movement only correlates to homerun rate holding GB% fixed.

Yes, this appears to be right. I was confused because I use a 2-8 ratings scale. A player with a 1-200 movement score of 117 got rated a 6/8. I seem to remember that in older versions of the game 117/200 put a guy at 5/8, so that confused me. I didn't know that that had changed a bit.
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