Are my FaceGen's correct? Everyone looks the same.

mars001 · 04-21-2022, 09:59 PM

This is a Quick Start from build 41. Very few have much semblance to the actual player. Some (Verdugo, Hernandez, Story, Wacha, Malbec, and Vasquez) almost look to be the same person. Maybe I have something wrong?

LansdowneSt · 04-21-2022, 10:22 PM

It's either the resolution or Macs are getting progressively worse showing facegens. Windows or Mac? Screen resolution?

Here's my opening day. Not precisely the same screen angle but you'll get the gist. Did a normal and close-up view.

mars001 · 04-21-2022, 10:30 PM

Wow. Yours are great. Now I know I have something wrong. I have a Mac and I'm running at 3360x1890. I did not have this problem in OOTP 22. FaceGens were fine on the same machine.

LansdowneSt · 04-21-2022, 10:39 PM

I think the game is forced to run low-res on Macs which degrades the facegens. I don't know why. Something about the full screen and how it runs. I'm sure someone will clarify. Was just about to post a zoomed-in Wacha and Otto Lopez (as I noticed late you are playing Toronto and those weren't on my screen). But this is how facegens ought to look. I think if others see the thread, there will be a clear divide between Mac and PC users based on your feedback.

mars001 · 04-21-2022, 10:40 PM

I tried manually selecting the PhotoFit file for a few players and then I just tried a force update across the board and no change.

mars001 · 04-21-2022, 10:44 PM

Geez...yours look so good. This is what I have.

LansdowneSt · 04-21-2022, 10:49 PM

I have friends on the forum that have Macs and we compare facegens (the literal same fg file) and there is a material difference between PC and Mac. I wish everyone could see them rendered as they are in my posts. Like the logos, uniforms, etc, the faces - be it a photopack or a well done facegen - can really add to a fantastic game.

LansdowneSt · 04-21-2022, 10:50 PM

Hard to believe it's a rendering of the same file but it is.

mars001 · 04-21-2022, 10:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Hard to believe it's a rendering of the same file but it is.

I was thinking the exact same thing. I don't recall it being like this in OOTP22 though... I've already uninstalled or I'd go back to compare.

LansdowneSt · 04-21-2022, 11:01 PM

The ideal photo to make a facegen from is essentially a mugshot. Straight on and no smiling. If the old fg's had more variance such that you could tell them apart it was likely that they were smiling or otherwise, to a Windows user, wonky. The very things that make a Mac user see a differentiating feature between players (esp. if facial hair doesn't render well) - like a super wide smile or an extra heavy face like Devers, makes it awful on Windows because so much of that detail ought not be so prominent. Not sure I'm explaining that well but since some of the players you mentioned in the first post are in a mugshot pose - if you wash away all the detail, they are just all whitish, no detail faces in a mugshot pose and same-ish for that reason, having no detail.

Markus Heinsohn · 04-21-2022, 11:54 PM

This is something we are still working on and hope to have a fix for, soon.

mars001 · 04-22-2022, 12:08 AM

Thank you Markus and team.

ashantewarrier · 04-25-2022, 07:58 AM

I'm a Mac user and I'm having the same issue as well. All the facegens are low res. They all look the same with little detail.

luckymann · 04-27-2022, 06:26 AM

I'm getting something different. FGs all over the shop size-wise... this is after resetting them and refreshing the game.

EDIT refreshing all FGs seems to fix this, although that might not be a suitable solution for all.

ashantewarrier · 04-27-2022, 08:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by luckymann

I'm getting something different. FGs all over the shop size-wise... this is after resetting them and refreshing the game.

They still all look the same and at low res however. If you compare facegens between OOTP22 and OOTP23 you can see the difference. OOTP23 facegens are drastically lacking in detail and resolution.

This is a major issue/problem for Mac users which hopefully will be resolved soon.

percolaten · 04-27-2022, 02:00 PM

Facegens on a mac always came out slightly less detailed, but nothing like this. Here's a thread photo of Lansdowne's Reggie Jackson, pretty similar to how it appeared on my mac for OOTP 22, and here's how the same Reggie looks on 23. Lost his glasses while putting on lighter makeup, after shaving.

ashantewarrier · 05-02-2022, 02:40 PM

Any update on facegen fix for Mac users? Thanks!

Lukas Berger · 05-02-2022, 02:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ashantewarrier

Any update on facegen fix for Mac users? Thanks!

We're still working on it

ashantewarrier · 05-02-2022, 03:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

We're still working on it

Thanks for the update Lukas!

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woofdogsea · 05-11-2022, 10:22 PM

I'm a Mac user and seeing Facegen problems as well. I tried to generate new facial features for some Latino players and everyone of them look European white. In previous versions of the game OOTP 21/22, Latino face choices were much more realistic ranging from light skinned to darker skinned.

04-21-2022, 09:59 PM	#1
mars001 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 946	Are my FaceGen's correct? Everyone looks the same. This is a Quick Start from build 41. Very few have much semblance to the actual player. Some (Verdugo, Hernandez, Story, Wacha, Malbec, and Vasquez) almost look to be the same person. Maybe I have something wrong? Attached Images

04-21-2022, 10:22 PM	#2
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 8,178	It's either the resolution or Macs are getting progressively worse showing facegens. Windows or Mac? Screen resolution? Here's my opening day. Not precisely the same screen angle but you'll get the gist. Did a normal and close-up view. Attached Images

04-21-2022, 10:39 PM	#4
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 8,178	I think the game is forced to run low-res on Macs which degrades the facegens. I don't know why. Something about the full screen and how it runs. I'm sure someone will clarify. Was just about to post a zoomed-in Wacha and Otto Lopez (as I noticed late you are playing Toronto and those weren't on my screen). But this is how facegens ought to look. I think if others see the thread, there will be a clear divide between Mac and PC users based on your feedback. Attached Images

04-21-2022, 10:44 PM	#6
mars001 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 946	Geez...yours look so good. This is what I have. Attached Images

04-21-2022, 11:01 PM	#10
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 8,178	The ideal photo to make a facegen from is essentially a mugshot. Straight on and no smiling. If the old fg's had more variance such that you could tell them apart it was likely that they were smiling or otherwise, to a Windows user, wonky. The very things that make a Mac user see a differentiating feature between players (esp. if facial hair doesn't render well) - like a super wide smile or an extra heavy face like Devers, makes it awful on Windows because so much of that detail ought not be so prominent. Not sure I'm explaining that well but since some of the players you mentioned in the first post are in a mugshot pose - if you wash away all the detail, they are just all whitish, no detail faces in a mugshot pose and same-ish for that reason, having no detail. Last edited by LansdowneSt; 04-21-2022 at 11:05 PM.

04-21-2022, 10:30 PM	#3
mars001 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 946	Wow. Yours are great. Now I know I have something wrong. I have a Mac and I'm running at 3360x1890. I did not have this problem in OOTP 22. FaceGens were fine on the same machine.

04-21-2022, 10:40 PM	#5
mars001 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 946	I tried manually selecting the PhotoFit file for a few players and then I just tried a force update across the board and no change.

04-21-2022, 10:49 PM	#7
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 8,178	I have friends on the forum that have Macs and we compare facegens (the literal same fg file) and there is a material difference between PC and Mac. I wish everyone could see them rendered as they are in my posts. Like the logos, uniforms, etc, the faces - be it a photopack or a well done facegen - can really add to a fantastic game.

04-21-2022, 10:50 PM	#8
LansdowneSt Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: From Duxbury, Mass residing Baltimore Posts: 8,178	Hard to believe it's a rendering of the same file but it is.

04-21-2022, 11:54 PM	#11
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,803	This is something we are still working on and hope to have a fix for, soon. __________________ Buy Out of the Park Baseball 25 now! Download OOTP Go 25 for iOS Download OOTP Go 25 for Android

04-22-2022, 12:08 AM	#12
mars001 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 946	Thank you Markus and team.

04-25-2022, 07:58 AM	#13
ashantewarrier Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,309	I'm a Mac user and I'm having the same issue as well. All the facegens are low res. They all look the same with little detail. __________________ "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers *"Hitting is better than sex."* - Reggie Jackson

04-27-2022, 06:26 AM	#14
luckymann Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2019 Posts: 14,196	I'm getting something different. FGs all over the shop size-wise... this is after resetting them and refreshing the game. *EDIT refreshing all FGs seems to fix this, although that might not be a suitable solution for all.* __________________ HISTORICAL DO-OVERS A'S RED SOX DODGERS PIRATES MARINERS CUSTOM SAVES LGB NEXUS Last edited by luckymann; 04-27-2022 at 08:42 AM.

04-27-2022, 02:00 PM	#16
percolaten All Star Reserve Join Date: Oct 2021 Location: West Posts: 789	Facegens on a mac always came out slightly less detailed, but nothing like this. Here's a thread photo of Lansdowne's Reggie Jackson, pretty similar to how it appeared on my mac for OOTP 22, and here's how the same Reggie looks on 23. Lost his glasses while putting on lighter makeup, after shaving. Attached Images

05-02-2022, 02:40 PM	#17
ashantewarrier Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: Somerset, NJ via Brooklyn, NY Posts: 2,309	Any update on facegen fix for Mac users? Thanks! __________________ "I'm not concerned with your liking or disliking me... All I ask is that you respect me as a human being." -Jackie Robinson, #42 Brooklyn Dodgers *"Hitting is better than sex."* - Reggie Jackson

05-11-2022, 10:22 PM	#20
woofdogsea Bat Boy Join Date: May 2021 Location: Puerto Vallarta, JA Posts: 12	I'm a Mac user and seeing Facegen problems as well. I tried to generate new facial features for some Latino players and everyone of them look European white. In previous versions of the game OOTP 21/22, Latino face choices were much more realistic ranging from light skinned to darker skinned.