Offside issue

[_DD_]

Hello. Just recently got into the game and mostly enjoying it so far. One thing that really bugs me though is that when playing matches, on certain situations the play is offside, but none is called by the ref. I'll try to describe the situation to the best of my ability below.

So the attacking team (Team A) has the puck in the offensive zone and they entered the zone onside, then they lose possession and the defending team (Team B) clears the puck across the blue line into the neutral zone. Now Team A steals the puck again in the neutral zone and goes on the attack again, but they have a player or even multiple players still in the attacking zone from the earlier attack who never crossed the blue line of Team B back into the neutral zone, thus being offside now, but still, Team A passes the puck into the zone, whilst the receiver never left offside. Play continues and no offside is called, even though the play is offside.

[JeffR]

There's supposed to be a safety check to prevent that from occurring, but it sounds like there may be a loophole somewhere that's letting it happen. Does it always seem to involve a pass into the offensive zone? That sounds like one or more of the offside guys aren't being disqualified as potential pass targets as they should be, I'll have a look at the logic there.

[jumpSeat]

Originally Posted by _DD_

So the attacking team (Team A) has the puck in the offensive zone and they entered the zone onside, then they lose possession and the defending team (Team B) clears the puck across the blue line into the neutral zone. Now Team A steals the puck again in the neutral zone and goes on the attack again, but they have a player or even multiple players still in the attacking zone from the earlier attack who never crossed the blue line of Team B back into the neutral zone, thus being offside now, but still, Team A passes the puck into the zone, whilst the receiver never left offside. Play continues and no offside is called, even though the play is offside.

Yeah, I've noticed they don't always touch-up as well. (Or clear the zone if you prefer).

[kibasan]

Originally Posted by _DD_

Hello. Just recently got into the game and mostly enjoying it so far. One thing that really bugs me though is that when playing matches, on certain situations the play is offside, but none is called by the ref. I'll try to describe the situation to the best of my ability below.

So the attacking team (Team A) has the puck in the offensive zone and they entered the zone onside, then they lose possession and the defending team (Team B) clears the puck across the blue line into the neutral zone. Now Team A steals the puck again in the neutral zone and goes on the attack again, but they have a player or even multiple players still in the attacking zone from the earlier attack who never crossed the blue line of Team B back into the neutral zone, thus being offside now, but still, Team A passes the puck into the zone, whilst the receiver never left offside. Play continues and no offside is called, even though the play is offside.

I've noticed this happening too. But for me, more often than not, the attacker on Team A will sit at the line and wait for his teammates to touch up...but they never quite do..and still he crosses the line and play continues.

I was curious if this was just a visual effect because of the player icon mod I use -- on screen it appears, say, a half inch short of an official "touch up", but perhaps under the hood they have in fact crossed over to the neutral zone.

[_DD_]

Originally Posted by JeffR

There's supposed to be a safety check to prevent that from occurring, but it sounds like there may be a loophole somewhere that's letting it happen. Does it always seem to involve a pass into the offensive zone? That sounds like one or more of the offside guys aren't being disqualified as potential pass targets as they should be, I'll have a look at the logic there.

Alright, that sounds like a very logical cause for the issue. It has always involved a pass into the offensive zone as far as I recall.

[JeffR]

I found one possible ambiguity in the pass logic that might let this happen, but I'm not sure it's necessarily working in that manner. Going to get Sebastian to take a closer look.

[_DD_]

Originally Posted by JeffR

I found one possible ambiguity in the pass logic that might let this happen, but I'm not sure it's necessarily working in that manner. Going to get Sebastian to take a closer look.

Alright.

[JeffR]

Looks like it wasn't what I thought, and the situation as described ruled out the the most likely possibility Sebastian could think of. Going to have to add some special debugging checks to see if we can root out when and why this is happening.

[_DD_]

Originally Posted by JeffR

Looks like it wasn't what I thought, and the situation as described ruled out the the most likely possibility Sebastian could think of. Going to have to add some special debugging checks to see if we can root out when and why this is happening.

Ok, that's unfortunate. Thanks for keeping us up to date and working on the issue.

I tried to record the issue, but the game I played today didn't have it happen in its most serious form. I did catch one instance though where the offside players were far from touching the blue line again before the puck was passed back into the offensive zone.

Here's the clip. Oh and please check your volume, goal horn incoming.
https://youtu.be/dxw4que9eTc

As mentioned this isn't quite as severe as what I've seen and what I originally posted about. I've seen offside players receiving passes like this as far as at the hash marks with seemingly no effort to go for the blue line to get onside.

Also, the one displayed on the clip above could be accounted for the visual gameplay not correlating to what's happening under the hood, just like kibasan explained in their post as quoted below. The clock does jump some 3 seconds forward just before the offensive zone is re-entered, but the players do seem quite far away from the blue line either way.

The gameplay displayed is on normal speed by the way.

Originally Posted by kibasan

I've noticed this happening too. But for me, more often than not, the attacker on Team A will sit at the line and wait for his teammates to touch up...but they never quite do..and still he crosses the line and play continues.

I was curious if this was just a visual effect because of the player icon mod I use -- on screen it appears, say, a half inch short of an official "touch up", but perhaps under the hood they have in fact crossed over to the neutral zone.

[jumpSeat]

Originally Posted by _DD_

I did catch one instance though where the offside players were far from touching the blue line again before the puck was passed back into the offensive zone.

Here's the clip. Oh and please check your volume, goal horn incoming.
https://youtu.be/dxw4que9eTc.

Yeah, not much attempt to clear the zone there, at least not in the visual display. But as you say, maybe it's a timing sync issue.