Why no minimum duration of minor league assignment?

hefewe1zen · 03-09-2022, 05:52 AM

In OOTP, a player with option year used can be sent back and forth without limitations between majors and minors. Players could send down exhausted relievers then call them back 2 days later.

According to MLB rules:

Upon being optioned to the Minor Leagues, a position player must remain there for a minimum of 10 days before he is eligible to be recalled to the Major League roster. For pitchers, the minimum is 15 days.

I'm using this as a house rule but I don't understand why it's not implemented in game. It doesn't sound very complicated.

MathBandit · 03-09-2022, 08:09 AM

I believe for 2020 & 2021 at least that rule didn't exist in the MLB due to Covid and them wanting to enable teams to make roster changes as needed to handle positive cases.

MathBandit · 03-09-2022, 08:11 AM

To me the bigger rule that OOTP doesn't enforce (that is way more relevant than 10-day options) is that you're not actually allowed to carry 14+ pitchers on your 26-man roster - again, this is currently not enforced due to Covid.

Bluenoser · 03-09-2022, 08:20 AM

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Originally Posted by MathBandit

To me the bigger rule that OOTP doesn't enforce (that is way more relevant than 10-day options) is that you're not actually allowed to carry 14+ pitchers on your 26-man roster - again, this is currently not enforced due to Covid.

You can easily enforce this rule in OOTP League setup.

It's left optional for obvious reasons.

MathBandit · 03-09-2022, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Bluenoser

You can easily enforce this rule in OOTP League setup.

It's left optional for obvious reasons.

I've certainly never found where that option is; it doesn't seem to be in the Roster Rules section where I would think to look for it.

As for it being "obvious", I can see letting people pick (as OOTP lets you pick a lot of things), but I would think the "obvious" setting would be to default to the real MLB rule and let people change if they want to.

Bluenoser · 03-09-2022, 10:48 AM

The option is on the Stats and AI Tab in league setup.

For a Modern Day real world setup it defaults to the correct setting.

Matt Arnold · 03-09-2022, 11:11 AM

There's no "hard limit" on pitchers on the roster, the strategy settings are more suggestions than a truly hard limit. We might add the hard limit at some point, although since the AI is generally meant to follow the suggestion fairly closely, they don't tend to overload things as much as real GMs were doing.

As for the 10-day minors limit, it's always been high on my list of rules to bring in, and at the core, it's not complicated. But as with everything, there are exceptions (you can skip the limits to replace injured players), and what the knock-on effect to the AI is is completely unknown.

Cryomaniac · 03-10-2022, 03:40 AM

I'm all for more complex rules being added.

Although as Matt says, the issue would be the AI use of them.

03-09-2022, 05:52 AM	#1
hefewe1zen Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2019 Posts: 11	Why no minimum duration of minor league assignment? In OOTP, a player with option year used can be sent back and forth without limitations between majors and minors. Players could send down exhausted relievers then call them back 2 days later. According to MLB rules: Upon being optioned to the Minor Leagues, a position player must remain there for a minimum of 10 days before he is eligible to be recalled to the Major League roster. For pitchers, the minimum is 15 days. I'm using this as a house rule but I don't understand why it's not implemented in game. It doesn't sound very complicated.

03-10-2022, 03:40 AM	#8
Cryomaniac Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2007 Location: Hucknall, Notts, UK Posts: 4,902	I'm all for more complex rules being added. Although as Matt says, the issue would be the AI use of them. __________________

03-09-2022, 08:09 AM	#2
MathBandit All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,445	I believe for 2020 & 2021 at least that rule didn't exist in the MLB due to Covid and them wanting to enable teams to make roster changes as needed to handle positive cases.

03-09-2022, 08:11 AM	#3
MathBandit All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2021 Posts: 1,445	To me the bigger rule that OOTP doesn't enforce (that is way more relevant than 10-day options) is that you're not actually allowed to carry 14+ pitchers on your 26-man roster - again, this is currently not enforced due to Covid.

03-09-2022, 10:48 AM	#6
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In The Moment Posts: 14,183	The option is on the Stats and AI Tab in league setup. For a Modern Day real world setup it defaults to the correct setting.

03-09-2022, 11:11 AM	#7
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,819	There's no "hard limit" on pitchers on the roster, the strategy settings are more suggestions than a truly hard limit. We might add the hard limit at some point, although since the AI is generally meant to follow the suggestion fairly closely, they don't tend to overload things as much as real GMs were doing. As for the 10-day minors limit, it's always been high on my list of rules to bring in, and at the core, it's not complicated. But as with everything, there are exceptions (you can skip the limits to replace injured players), and what the knock-on effect to the AI is is completely unknown.