Player signed and released same day over and over

[dward1]

This veteran 40 year old infielder was good a while ago and can still do a job but is getting real money only to be released immediately over and over. Why would this happen? somehow the team re-evaluates when he gets there? nothing to do with foreign player limits, where I often see weirdness like this where teams sign players to huge contracts just to release them soon because they have a MR taking up that foreign player spot.

[T-Bone]

Originally Posted by dward1

This veteran 40 year old infielder was good a while ago and can still do a job but is getting real money only to be released immediately over and over. Why would this happen? somehow the team re-evaluates when he gets there? nothing to do with foreign player limits, where I often see weirdness like this where teams sign players to huge contracts just to release them soon because they have a MR taking up that foreign player spot.

I have had this same problem - it is very frustrating.

[bwburke94]

Welcome to Curtis Borkholder Land. Population: two.

[OutS|der]

Still nice MLB contracts are fully guaranteed buddy is making a killing with all these signing and releases.

Also this has been an issue for many versions.

[actionjackson]

Not what anyone wants to hear, but this is why I play with unlimited reserve rosters, and no minor leagues. I could be wrong, but I think this has everything to do with waiver rules, the RL versions of which, I still don't understand.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by actionjackson

Not what anyone wants to hear, but this is why I play with unlimited reserve rosters, and no minor leagues. I could be wrong, but I think this has everything to do with waiver rules, the RL versions of which, I still don't understand.

For others that may read this thread...

This does not happen to everyone. I play a standard type MLB setup with 5 levels of minors. I do have the suggested "no limit" on my lowest rookie minor league. I do not see this problem in my league and haven't for many years.

In the past it was tied mostly(?) to minor league roster sizes. It was fixed many versions ago, at least to the point it wasn't coming up almost daily in the forums.

Not sure why it is coming up in this player's league but looks to something that falls on an "in between" area for the AI. I need\I don't need?

Just came to my mind too as I type that I use "ghost players". Maybe, in my situation, this means without having to fill all positions I don't run into these "in between" areas?

My minors, or any level below MLB, is just a way to provide players to my MLB. Yes, I enjoy looking over some MiLB stats, standings, etc. but I'm not anal about it. This means, to me, ghost players are not a problem. Best advice from me to dward1 would be to put in ghosts, if not already there, and see if it helps. Of course if using ghost players is an issue for how he plays that won't work

Other than that comb through all of the age\roster size\service time settings and see if he can come up with something that might be triggering this? Unless he's already using default, then I'm out of anything that might explain or help.

[andyhdz]

Exactly right. Set rosters to unlimited and this doesn't happen.

[Mr. Marlin]

The problem with setting rosters to unlimited is you will have minor league teams with 150-200 players.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by bwburke94

Welcome to Curtis Borkholder Land. Population: two.

The closest real life one I can think of was that situation in the NBA a few years back where a guy was shuttled between the D-League and the NBA team multiple times over a few weeks.

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by Mr. Marlin

The problem with setting rosters to unlimited is you will have minor league teams with 150-200 players.

I don't...

Just went through my game. 5 levels of minors all with 30 limit except rookie ball. Rookie is unlimited.

Most players on a Rookie Ball team is 42. Only one team at this number.
4-5 more at 40-42.

One below 20, 18 to be exact. One at 21.

The rest between 25-38 players. That's ~22 teams and spit pretty close to even whether above or below 30.

As noted above.. MLB, 5 levels of MiLB, with ghost players enabled.

This is during the season, July 29th, just before the trade deadline.

As to the other four levels with the 30 cap? Looking them over almost all are filled to 30. Maybe two or three at 29. All teams have at least three catchers and enough pitchers. Quick perusal also shows OF and IF positions are well covered too. This suggests the AI is doing quite well at populating these teams.

It also shows despite having ghost players activated they are not being used on a every game basis. I have no doubt they are filling in from time to time as they are designed to do. This thread had me take a look at something I haven't before, I'm glad it did. I'm pretty impressed with how all of these team's minor league rosters look. Well done OOTP Dev

Bottom line with Rookie at unlimited there are no bloated rosters in my game.

[PSUColonel]

I set my minor leagues to the real (actual) sizes and service time restrictions, and I don’t have a problem.

AAA 28 players unlimited service
AA 28 players unlimited service
A+ 30 players 5 years
A 30 players 4 years
RCL unlimited 3 years
DSL 35 players 3 years

[PSUColonel]

You could still limit your complex league to 35 players, and it would still be fine. The limit of any MLB organization is 180. If you set RCL teams’ to 35, the most you would have in any one organization is 186….and that’s only if an organization has two rookie complex teams.

[Mr. Marlin]

Originally Posted by Sweed

I don't...

Just went through my game. 5 levels of minors all with 30 limit except rookie ball. Rookie is unlimited.

Most players on a Rookie Ball team is 42. Only one team at this number.
4-5 more at 40-42.

One below 20, 18 to be exact. One at 21.

The rest between 25-38 players. That's ~22 teams and spit pretty close to even whether above or below 30.

As noted above.. MLB, 5 levels of MiLB, with ghost players enabled.

This is during the season, July 29th, just before the trade deadline.

As to the other four levels with the 30 cap? Looking them over almost all are filled to 30. Maybe two or three at 29. All teams have at least three catchers and enough pitchers. Quick perusal also shows OF and IF positions are well covered too. This suggests the AI is doing quite well at populating these teams.

It also shows despite having ghost players activated they are not being used on a every game basis. I have no doubt they are filling in from time to time as they are designed to do. This thread had me take a look at something I haven't before, I'm glad it did. I'm pretty impressed with how all of these team's minor league rosters look. Well done OOTP Dev

Bottom line with Rookie at unlimited there are no bloated rosters in my game.

In all fairness it's been some time since this happened to me. At least OOTP 20 and before. It may well have been corrected in versions since. But it did happen for a while. I set up minor leagues differently now because of roster bloat. I'll have to try the old way and see if it still happened. If it's not happening to you it probably won't to me so it may have been fixed.

[dward1]

I have minor leagues unlimited, lowest level often has 90-100 players and this still happens.

it's just so frustrating to see the game have the same problems year after year with essentially no improvements to the play-by-play engine, AI, scouting, coaching, development, or financials. when was the last time any of these things were really touched? AI gets tiny improvements yearly but it seems like all the time goes to graphics and not the actual gameplay which has the same flaws for a decade.