Keeping WHA active(1979-80 season)

Orioles1966 · 11-16-2021, 04:34 PM

I am on July 1st,1979 and it says that the WHA is inactive.

Is it too late to save it or do I need to start a new game and check the proper boxes before I start the 1978-79 season?

Those who are keeping the WHA active then what changes are you making and are any teams going to the NHL anyways(including W. Gretzky)?

Adam B · 11-16-2021, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Orioles1966

I am on July 1st,1979 and it says that the WHA is inactive.

Is it too late to save it or do I need to start a new game and check the proper boxes before I start the 1978-79 season?

Those who are keeping the WHA active then what changes are you making and are any teams going to the NHL anyways(including W. Gretzky)?

You need to start a game in a year when the WHA is playable, so yes, you'd have to start in at least 78/79. Jeff and I actually did an entire Twitch series on this for 7 called - "It Lives!" as we kept the WHA alive through the 1980s. It's tough because you're going to get some really great talent, because of the younger drafting, but it's hard to keep them because they all want to go to the NHL.

Orioles1966 · 11-16-2021, 07:01 PM

I went back and did that(simmed 1978-79 season)) and the game crashed going from June 30th to July 1st. It can't be because of editing because I haven't started .

Going to try it on another PC .

If I get it working then I will manually move Toronto Maple Leafs and Detroit Red Wings to WHA and give NHL sub-par Toronto and Detroit expansion teams with the lowly Detroit team playing at Cobo Arena.

Orioles1966 · 11-16-2021, 07:24 PM

WHA 1979-80

EASTERN DIVISION
Cincinnati Stingers
Cleveland Crusaders
Detroit Red Wings
New England Whalers
Philadelphia Blazers
New York Raiders
Quebec Nordiques
Toronto Maple Leafs

WESTERN DIVISION
Chicago Cougars
Edmonton Oilers
Houston Aeros
Indianapolis Racers
Los Angeles Sharks
Minnesota Fighting Saints
San Diego Mariners
Winnipeg Jets

1979-80 NHL

PATRICK DIVISION
New York Islanders
Florida Panthers
Atlanta Flames
New York Rangers
Philadelphia Flyers

SMYTHE DIVISION
Utah Pioneers
Seattle Totems
Kansas City-Omaha Cobras
Colorado Rockies
St. Louis Blues
Chicago Black Hawks
Vancouver Canucks

ADAMS DIVISION
Quebec Nordiques
New Jersey Americans
Buffalo Sabres
Boston Bruins
Toronto Bulldogs
Minnesota North Stars

NORRIS DIVISION
New England Shamrocks
Washington Capitals
Detroit Mustangs
Phoenix Roadrunners
Montreal Canadiens
Los Angeles Kings
Pittsburgh Penguins

Orioles1966 · 11-17-2021, 10:41 AM

Game crashed on second PC on 6/30/79(without editing).

Simmed 1978-79 season and wouldn't let me go past 6/30/79 before crashing.

Orioles1966 · 11-18-2021, 11:01 AM

I did the same setup with this game on FHM7 and works fine so the update probably messed things up.

I might import the game from FHM7 to FHM8 too see if it still works.

Dkitson16 · 11-25-2021, 12:36 PM

I'm simming a situation where the WHA is ongoing and the NHL collapses in the 70's. Yes I know not realistic, but fun.

Every year I fold two NHL teams and add 2 teams to the WHA.

I've got the NHL down to the original 6 now and the WHA is at 24 teams.

To encourage players signing with the WHA I have put a low salary cap on the NHL ($700,000 in 1972) and kept lowering it. It's now at $500,000 in 1979. The WHA has no cap.

Things I noticed:

Some 5 star players will sign ridiculously low contracts in both the NHL and WHA.

Some star players are singing multiple 1 year contracts.

Bobby Orr has jumped between leagues at contracts as follows
1973 NHL BST - 2 yrs at $75,500
1975 WHA PHI - 1 yr at $48,464
1976 WHA WPG - 1 yr at $150,605
1977 WHA WPG - 1 yr at 72,000
1978 WHA WPG - 1 yr at 63,696
1979 WHA WPG - 1 yr at 67,000

Meanwhile 2 star player Greg Polis has signed with Winnipeg for $210,000

Marcel Dionne
1971 NHL DET - 4 yrs with no contract listed?
1975 WHA CLE - 1 yr at $24,000
1976 WHA NE - 1 yr at $131,387
1977 - WHA NE - 3 yrs at 74,500

Any thoughts on settings I can adjust?

11-16-2021, 04:34 PM	#1
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	Keeping WHA active(1979-80 season) I am on July 1st,1979 and it says that the WHA is inactive. Is it too late to save it or do I need to start a new game and check the proper boxes before I start the 1978-79 season? Those who are keeping the WHA active then what changes are you making and are any teams going to the NHL anyways(including W. Gretzky)? Last edited by Orioles1966; 11-16-2021 at 04:37 PM.

11-16-2021, 07:01 PM	#3
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	I went back and did that(simmed 1978-79 season)) and the game crashed going from June 30th to July 1st. It can't be because of editing because I haven't started . Going to try it on another PC . If I get it working then I will manually move Toronto Maple Leafs and Detroit Red Wings to WHA and give NHL sub-par Toronto and Detroit expansion teams with the lowly Detroit team playing at Cobo Arena. Last edited by Orioles1966; 11-16-2021 at 07:09 PM.

11-16-2021, 07:24 PM	#4
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	WHA 1979-80 EASTERN DIVISION Cincinnati Stingers Cleveland Crusaders Detroit Red Wings New England Whalers Philadelphia Blazers New York Raiders Quebec Nordiques Toronto Maple Leafs WESTERN DIVISION Chicago Cougars Edmonton Oilers Houston Aeros Indianapolis Racers Los Angeles Sharks Minnesota Fighting Saints San Diego Mariners Winnipeg Jets 1979-80 NHL PATRICK DIVISION New York Islanders Florida Panthers Atlanta Flames New York Rangers Philadelphia Flyers SMYTHE DIVISION Utah Pioneers Seattle Totems Kansas City-Omaha Cobras Colorado Rockies St. Louis Blues Chicago Black Hawks Vancouver Canucks ADAMS DIVISION Quebec Nordiques New Jersey Americans Buffalo Sabres Boston Bruins Toronto Bulldogs Minnesota North Stars NORRIS DIVISION New England Shamrocks Washington Capitals Detroit Mustangs Phoenix Roadrunners Montreal Canadiens Los Angeles Kings Pittsburgh Penguins Last edited by Orioles1966; 11-16-2021 at 10:25 PM.

11-17-2021, 10:41 AM	#5
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	Game crashed on second PC on 6/30/79(without editing). Simmed 1978-79 season and wouldn't let me go past 6/30/79 before crashing.

11-18-2021, 11:01 AM	#6
Orioles1966 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2012 Posts: 2,869	I did the same setup with this game on FHM7 and works fine so the update probably messed things up. I might import the game from FHM7 to FHM8 too see if it still works.

11-25-2021, 12:36 PM	#7
Dkitson16 Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2017 Posts: 315	I'm simming a situation where the WHA is ongoing and the NHL collapses in the 70's. Yes I know not realistic, but fun. Every year I fold two NHL teams and add 2 teams to the WHA. I've got the NHL down to the original 6 now and the WHA is at 24 teams. To encourage players signing with the WHA I have put a low salary cap on the NHL ($700,000 in 1972) and kept lowering it. It's now at $500,000 in 1979. The WHA has no cap. Things I noticed: Some 5 star players will sign ridiculously low contracts in both the NHL and WHA. Some star players are singing multiple 1 year contracts. Bobby Orr has jumped between leagues at contracts as follows 1973 NHL BST - 2 yrs at $75,500 1975 WHA PHI - 1 yr at $48,464 1976 WHA WPG - 1 yr at $150,605 1977 WHA WPG - 1 yr at 72,000 1978 WHA WPG - 1 yr at 63,696 1979 WHA WPG - 1 yr at 67,000 Meanwhile 2 star player Greg Polis has signed with Winnipeg for $210,000 Marcel Dionne 1971 NHL DET - 4 yrs with no contract listed? 1975 WHA CLE - 1 yr at $24,000 1976 WHA NE - 1 yr at $131,387 1977 - WHA NE - 3 yrs at 74,500 Any thoughts on settings I can adjust?