Free Agents Available Jan 1st

belial1134 · 10-30-2021, 03:29 PM

I know there was some discussion about this previously...wondering if this is suprising or not. Jan 1st 2023 some guys with 4 star ability and late 20's still available... Reilly, Copp, etc... Even the older guys like Bergeron and Kadri would still produce.

I haven't tried to sign anyone so I'm not sure if they are asking too much or if AIs haven't tried. I think I did see a rumor about Burakovsky potential being signed but that never happened. Maybe due to his injury (3-4 months).

I'll see what happens at the trade deadline and report back. I would expect a few teams contending to try and pick up a free agents.

belial1134 · 10-30-2021, 11:37 PM

I've simmed past the trade deadline and only one of the players was signed. It was back on Jan 6th even though it doesn't show in the bottom right like I was earlier - that's odd..

I guess there's a chance some might sign before the playoffs by teams looking to strengthen their roster....maybe?

Foppa21 · 10-31-2021, 07:35 AM

That is often the case for me as well. In my Avs sim for example I had no chance to keep A. Burakovsky because of cap issues an no team engaged a very productive player all season. I suspect that many teams are above there internal budgets or spendig hard to the cap and have no possibility to sign these relativ expensive players.

renojedi · 10-31-2021, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by belial1134

I've simmed past the trade deadline and only one of the players was signed. It was back on Jan 6th even though it doesn't show in the bottom right like I was earlier - that's odd..

I guess there's a chance some might sign before the playoffs by teams looking to strengthen their roster....maybe?

I'd be curious to see if they do before the end of the season. If they are UFAs, it seems unrealistic that players of that quality would just take a year off over money or contract years. It would be more realistic that as the season went along their demands went down eventually settling on a below market price (the "betting on themselves" scenario with a 1 year, 1-2M deal) or just going to the KHL for a year. There are only so many productive years in a hockey career.

belial1134 · 10-31-2021, 02:13 PM

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I'd be curious to see if they do before the end of the season. If they are UFAs, it seems unrealistic that players of that quality would just take a year off over money or contract years. It would be more realistic that as the season went along their demands went down eventually settling on a below market price (the "betting on themselves" scenario with a 1 year, 1-2M deal) or just going to the KHL for a year. There are only so many productive years in a hockey career.

Totally agree that most players would settle for a below market price just to keep playing. Maybe a player's greed and/or sportsmanship can come into play if they would take a year off and refuse to sign for below what they feel he's worth.

As someone mentioned earlier, I do think maybe too many teams have spent close to the cap and just can't afford to sign a player to a 6 mil+ contract.

I didn't take a snapshot at the end of the year but I believe they were still free agents at year end.

Here's the current free agents at 10-31-2023. Kadri is still a free agent as well as Palat and Trocheck (not shown, they are the next screen down). There's about 13 3 star players after Meier.

Mecza · 10-31-2021, 02:50 PM

Bummer. Hope it gets patched soon. Running a 20 year sim to see what happens before starting a long term save.

Mecza · 10-31-2021, 05:11 PM

Not exactly the same set up (custom NHL/AHL/CHL league), but ran a 20 year sim without being in control of any team. This is the state of opening day 2041/2042. Looks like some roster logic needs to be tweaked?

Andy_Jay1987 · 10-31-2021, 10:34 PM

On last years game I watched a 5* Connor Hellebuyck sit for a year, then I saw Elias Petterson stay un FA until november when he was willing to take basically no money (around 3m I think) and I signed him up.

Skaters sitting there makes little sense, but after a few years in the sim a lot of tems have good goalies and a guy like Hellebuyck would just be left because of money. Perhaps something that makes them sign in KHL for a year so they don't just sit there?

belial1134 · 10-31-2021, 10:41 PM

Quick update to the screenshot, one of the 3.5 star players..

On Nov 1st, Sundqvist signed with Visby Roma HK for $20,000.

I was curious if that many teams were too close to the cap to sign free agents, but doesn't appear to be the case...
20 teams have at least $10 mil in cap space....so I don't think that's the underlying issue.

and since we are talking about 3.0 and higher players, they definitely would be upgrades over someone on any teams roster.

I'll once again try to post an update when I get to the trade deadline.

Perhaps teams are full of waiver claimed players, they don't have the ability to sign new players without waiving good players in return. (I saw the post where a team waived Luongo because there other 2 goalies were claimed off waivers, and he was the only one they could move)

renojedi · 11-01-2021, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by belial1134

Perhaps teams are full of waiver claimed players, they don't have the ability to sign new players without waiving good players in return. (I saw the post where a team waived Luongo because there other 2 goalies were claimed off waivers, and he was the only one they could move)

This was one of the reasons I was concerned about the NMC for waiver claims workaround once I saw several of my 2-2.5 star players claimed from my AHL team.

JeffR · 11-02-2021, 02:07 AM

We think we've found the basic problem here, there was an error in the way the team was calculating their future cap situation that was making expensive signings difficult. Will be testing the fix soon.

JSnow93 · 11-02-2021, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by JeffR

We think we've found the basic problem here, there was an error in the way the team was calculating their future cap situation that was making expensive signings difficult. Will be testing the fix soon.

Will this be in the next update if testing goes well? Going to wait to start a save.

belial1134 · 11-02-2021, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by JSnow93

Will this be in the next update if testing goes well? Going to wait to start a save.

Would we have to start a new game or will it work with the current one we are using?

JeffR · 11-02-2021, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by JSnow93

Will this be in the next update if testing goes well? Going to wait to start a save.

Yes, it will, assuming the testing goes OK.

JeffR · 11-02-2021, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by belial1134

Would we have to start a new game or will it work with the current one we are using?

It should work with current saves.

kibasan · 11-05-2021, 09:36 PM

I hope like hell it fixes it. I just had John Klingberg, Johnny Gaudreau, Claude Giroux, and Ondrej Palat sign 1 year 750k deals.

In 2022...

JSnow93 · 11-06-2021, 09:09 AM

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Originally Posted by kibasan

I hope like hell it fixes it. I just had John Klingberg, Johnny Gaudreau, Claude Giroux, and Ondrej Palat sign 1 year 750k deals.

In 2022...

Yikes.

JSnow93 · 11-09-2021, 06:13 PM

Has this been fixed in the current update?

kibasan · 11-09-2021, 07:46 PM

I just fired up a test run into 2022 and both Toronto and Calgary signed Morgan Reilly and Johnny Gaudreau to extensions during the 2021 season (which I quick simmed). Not sure about those who made it to the open market.

belial1134 · 11-10-2021, 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by JSnow93

Has this been fixed in the current update?

I don't think think so. Here's my Jan 2027. Top half is all players, bottom half is goalies filtered out.

There's 5 more 3.0 ability guys after bertuzzi.

Surely, some teams would half enough available money to sign some of these 3.0/3.5 players who are bound to be upgrades.

I'll try and see if any get signed closer to the playoffs but in the past I had not noticed any sort of "playoff push"

10-30-2021, 03:29 PM	#1
belial1134 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 390	Free Agents Available Jan 1st I know there was some discussion about this previously...wondering if this is suprising or not. Jan 1st 2023 some guys with 4 star ability and late 20's still available... Reilly, Copp, etc... Even the older guys like Bergeron and Kadri would still produce. I haven't tried to sign anyone so I'm not sure if they are asking too much or if AIs haven't tried. I think I did see a rumor about Burakovsky potential being signed but that never happened. Maybe due to his injury (3-4 months). I'll see what happens at the trade deadline and report back. I would expect a few teams contending to try and pick up a free agents. Attached Images Last edited by belial1134; 10-30-2021 at 03:31 PM.

10-30-2021, 11:37 PM	#2
belial1134 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 390	I've simmed past the trade deadline and only one of the players was signed. It was back on Jan 6th even though it doesn't show in the bottom right like I was earlier - that's odd.. I guess there's a chance some might sign before the playoffs by teams looking to strengthen their roster....maybe? Attached Images Last edited by belial1134; 10-30-2021 at 11:39 PM.

10-31-2021, 07:35 AM	#3
Foppa21 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Hamburg, Germany Posts: 36	That is often the case for me as well. In my Avs sim for example I had no chance to keep A. Burakovsky because of cap issues an no team engaged a very productive player all season. I suspect that many teams are above there internal budgets or spendig hard to the cap and have no possibility to sign these relativ expensive players. Last edited by Foppa21; 10-31-2021 at 07:36 AM.

10-31-2021, 10:41 PM	#9
belial1134 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2021 Posts: 390	Quick update to the screenshot, one of the 3.5 star players.. On Nov 1st, Sundqvist signed with Visby Roma HK for $20,000. I was curious if that many teams were too close to the cap to sign free agents, but doesn't appear to be the case... 20 teams have at least $10 mil in cap space....so I don't think that's the underlying issue. and since we are talking about 3.0 and higher players, they definitely would be upgrades over someone on any teams roster. I'll once again try to post an update when I get to the trade deadline. Perhaps teams are full of waiver claimed players, they don't have the ability to sign new players without waiving good players in return. (I saw the post where a team waived Luongo because there other 2 goalies were claimed off waivers, and he was the only one they could move) Attached Images

10-31-2021, 02:50 PM	#6
Mecza Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 268	Bummer. Hope it gets patched soon. Running a 20 year sim to see what happens before starting a long term save.

10-31-2021, 05:11 PM	#7
Mecza Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 268	Not exactly the same set up (custom NHL/AHL/CHL league), but ran a 20 year sim without being in control of any team. This is the state of opening day 2041/2042. Looks like some roster logic needs to be tweaked?

10-31-2021, 10:34 PM	#8
Andy_Jay1987 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 25	On last years game I watched a 5* Connor Hellebuyck sit for a year, then I saw Elias Petterson stay un FA until november when he was willing to take basically no money (around 3m I think) and I signed him up. Skaters sitting there makes little sense, but after a few years in the sim a lot of tems have good goalies and a guy like Hellebuyck would just be left because of money. Perhaps something that makes them sign in KHL for a year so they don't just sit there?

11-02-2021, 02:07 AM	#11
JeffR FHM Producer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Kelowna, BC Posts: 17,428	We think we've found the basic problem here, there was an error in the way the team was calculating their future cap situation that was making expensive signings difficult. Will be testing the fix soon.

11-05-2021, 09:36 PM	#16
kibasan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 50	I hope like hell it fixes it. I just had John Klingberg, Johnny Gaudreau, Claude Giroux, and Ondrej Palat sign 1 year 750k deals. In 2022...

11-09-2021, 06:13 PM	#18
JSnow93 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2017 Posts: 54	Has this been fixed in the current update?

11-09-2021, 07:46 PM	#19
kibasan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2020 Posts: 50	I just fired up a test run into 2022 and both Toronto and Calgary signed Morgan Reilly and Johnny Gaudreau to extensions during the 2021 season (which I quick simmed). Not sure about those who made it to the open market.