The typical way..

[fredbeene]

I would a couple of teams to use starters in relief and some to use 4 man rotation but I don't want to manage them. How can achieve that.
I tried typical settings and it seemed all but 1 team behaved with the settings set.
Is there a way to make it more random?

Typical Starting Rotation Size The typical number of pitchers in a starting rotation in this league. Can be set to 3, 4, 5, or 6.
Starting Rotation Mode The typical way in which a manager in this league will choose his next starter.
Allow Starters in Relief Whether or not managers in this league will use members of their starting rotation as relievers when needed.

[joefromchicago]

Originally Posted by fredbeene

Is there a way to make it more random?

AFAIK, no.

I've seen some instances where a team has a smaller rotation than the league setting because it doesn't have enough starters on its staff. So, for instance, a team with only four starters will have a four-man rotation, even if the league setting is for five-man rotations. Other than that, though, I've never seen, say, one team have a strict rotation where the league setting is "start highest rested."

But you're right, there should be some randomness allowed here. There are plenty of instances where some teams had five-man rotations while others had four-man rotations, or where some teams had strict rotations while others would always go with their highest rested starter. Ideally, that kind of randomness could be handled through manager strategies. But it isn't.

[fredbeene]

Originally Posted by joefromchicago

AFAIK, no.

I've seen some instances where a team has a smaller rotation than the league setting because it doesn't have enough starters on its staff. So, for instance, a team with only four starters will have a four-man rotation, even if the league setting is for five-man rotations. Other than that, though, I've never seen, say, one team have a strict rotation where the league setting is "start highest rested."

But you're right, there should be some randomness allowed here. There are plenty of instances where some teams had five-man rotations while others had four-man rotations, or where some teams had strict rotations while others would always go with their highest rested starter. Ideally, that kind of randomness could be handled through manager strategies. But it isn't.

Thank you... that is what i was afraid of : (

[thehef]

I'm wondering if Player Strategy settings could be used to achieve part of this. For example, if your league default is a five-man rotation, but for 5 or 6 teams (or however many you want) you "Force Role" to be Starter for four pitchers and Reliever (and maybe Closer for one of them) for the remaining guys on the staff, maybe that would work...

You'd have to keep an eye on things, though, because if AI promotes a starting pitcher from the minors or reserve roster, he'd probably take that 5th starter role...

[thehef]

Originally Posted by joefromchicago

But you're right, there should be some randomness allowed here. There are plenty of instances where some teams had five-man rotations while others had four-man rotations, or where some teams had strict rotations while others would always go with their highest rested starter. Ideally, that kind of randomness could be handled through manager strategies. But it isn't.

Seems like there ought to be (could be?) a setting that allows for AI to look at the staff and determine whether to go with a strict rotation or highest rested, and whether it should be 4 or 5 man (etc.). This would be perfect for late 60's and throughout the 70's.

[joefromchicago]

Originally Posted by thehef

I'm wondering if Player Strategy settings could be used to achieve part of this. For example, if your league default is a five-man rotation, but for 5 or 6 teams (or however many you want) you "Force Role" to be Starter for four pitchers and Reliever (and maybe Closer for one of them) for the remaining guys on the staff, maybe that would work...

You'd have to keep an eye on things, though, because if AI promotes a starting pitcher from the minors or reserve roster, he'd probably take that 5th starter role...

Yeah, there is a way that you can have different teams with different rotation sizes and starter settings in a solo league - just run every team yourself. Not a great solution, but hey, at least it's a solution

Originally Posted by thehef

Seems like there ought to be (could be?) a setting that allows for AI to look at the staff and determine whether to go with a strict rotation or highest rested, and whether it should be 4 or 5 man (etc.). This would be perfect for late 60's and throughout the 70's.

I couldn't agree more. Like I said, ideally this could be handled with manager strategies. That way, there'd be no need to tinker with the AI. It would also be a challenge for the gamer to find the right manager for the team. If I have a strong rotation, I might want to go with someone like Bobby Cox or Tommy Lasorda rather than a fly-by-the-seats-of-your-pants type like Joe Maddon. If I don't want my starters to pitch a lot of innings, I might want to avoid hiring a guy like Billy Martin. Right now, though, every manager handles his pitching rotation pretty much the same. What's the fun in that?

[thehef]

Originally Posted by joefromchicago

Yeah, there is a way that you can have different teams with different rotation sizes and starter settings in a solo league - just run every team yourself. Not a great solution, but hey, at least it's a solution

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the player strategies stuff. I was thinking that if you adjust those settings, you can make sure that there are four starters (instead of, say, five), or that Pete Rose always bats leadoff, even if you are not controlling that team. I thought that was part of the reason for Player Strategy settings. Is that not the case? You're saying if you don't control the team, AI will override/wipeout those settings?

[joefromchicago]

Originally Posted by thehef

Perhaps I'm misunderstanding the player strategies stuff. I was thinking that if you adjust those settings, you can make sure that there are four starters (instead of, say, five), or that Pete Rose always bats leadoff, even if you are not controlling that team. I thought that was part of the reason for Player Strategy settings. Is that not the case? You're saying if you don't control the team, AI will override/wipeout those settings?

Well, maybe "control" is too strong a word, but the gamer would have to manipulate the rosters of every team, as you describe. But in my experience, those kinds of changes usually do get cancelled by the AI eventually - largely because of roster moves.

[NoOne]

you can impact the roster slots they layout for SP and their recovery time in "Stats and AI" area of settings.

if what joe says is right, try slowly reducing rounds in draft. Realize it tkes many years to see tht impact on the mil, let alone an impact on the ML. But, if they have a hard time having enough starters, this will force it to happen, obviously. use a restored backup, blind yourself and zoom out to see what happens without benefiting your team, rinse and repeat with successively reduced players created per year and zoom out to see if it happens..

very low and low fatigue recovery (forget acutal name of setting on left in 1080p) -- both work okay for a 5 man rotation. in a 'low' league, the higher stamina guys will be able to pitch near 100% recovered with 3 days off while the rest will still need 4 days off.

not sure if there's much overlap after that... each setting basically removes a day of recovery? 1/2 day increment for upper tier stamina, if stays the same.. but think it can get down to a 2-man rotation based on this recovery setting. (1 day off)

[fredbeene]

it is hard to get the AI to do a CORE four rotation with 2 other pitchers being your spot 5 starter.
The OOTPB definition of TYPICAL really seems to mean 95% of the teams in your league will adhere to the AI setting.