Somewhat discouraged

TwanLX2000 · 07-30-2021, 11:20 AM

Poor projection on my behalf, perhaps: it killed me that so many of the silver/gold cards I was chasing to finish BAL collections were added to TM2. In many ways, TM2 was an auto-reward collection to those who had already built their BALs... which would be fine if both collections weren't continual builds for yet other future collections and toppers. I'm not sure where to go from here.

The idea of paying 2-3 times as much for cards to complete collections that came out months ago is not ideal, but I don't really have anything else to work on that doesn't include cards being used a second or third time. I mean, the easiest way to complete TM2 is still with the diamond cards, but by including all the same silvers and golds, I've ran out of available real estate.

Maybe this is just me.

chazzycat · 07-30-2021, 12:33 PM

I think a lot of people were discouraged by the mission drop last night, for various reasons. They are quite difficult missions for bad reward cards for the most part, with the major exception of Pedro. If this is just TM#2, I shudder to imagine how difficult TM#3 will be.

professor ape · 07-30-2021, 12:46 PM

I’m fine with the difficulty as long as the FH2 cards are a significant step up in quality from the FH1 set. If they are going to be playable cards at high levels then they should be tough to get. Having a larger set of strong cards out there will make for more variety of lineups at the Diamond and Perfect levels. We should have to make choices and not count on completing everything. That would be boring.
I’m a F2P guy who grinds the tournaments for packs and am feeling pretty good this morning that I have all four components for the upcoming FH2 missions for seven of the thirty teams. I am one mission away for twelve other teams but completing those twelve would probably cost me close to a million PPs. It would take a lot more to complete all thirty. That feels right to me.

chazzycat · 07-30-2021, 12:51 PM

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Originally Posted by professor ape

IIf they are going to be playable cards at high levels then they should be tough to get.

Agreed there. The problem is they are not really playable IMO (Pedro of course, maybe a couple others, but for the most part no)

TwanLX2000 · 07-30-2021, 12:59 PM

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Originally Posted by professor ape

I’m fine with the difficulty as long as the FH2 cards are a significant step up in quality from the FH1 set. If they are going to be playable cards at high levels then they should be tough to get. Having a larger set of strong cards out there will make for more variety of lineups at the Diamond and Perfect levels. We should have to make choices and not count on completing everything. That would be boring.
I’m a F2P guy who grinds the tournaments for packs and am feeling pretty good this morning that I have all four components for the upcoming FH2 missions for seven of the thirty teams. I am one mission away for twelve other teams but completing those twelve would probably cost me close to a million PPs. It would take a lot more to complete all thirty. That feels right to me.

Yeah, my issue isn't with them being tough to get. Being F2P, I don't expect everything to be attainable, and I'm fine with new content giving people options, and being forced to make decisions about how I spend. If they had created this set to require the diamond cards that they included (which were mostly untied to previous collections), it would've had the same degree of difficulty, as most of these rewards can be had by simply holding the highest point cards.

Maybe they thought they were doing us a favor by including the silver and gold cards to earn *something* towards this collection, but for those of us still chasing the lower cards for other collections, it made finishing those out-of-reach as well, and I was halfway invested. Thus, it took away ANY option for me to spend in a manner that can improve my team, even the more economical ones. That's my chief criticism, and I acknowledge that it may be specific to how my team is built, through tournament packs and collections.

chazzycat · 07-30-2021, 01:08 PM

It is weird how they didn't include barely any silvers that weren't in previous missions. Maybe they were trying to throw the speculators for a loop.

TwanLX2000 · 07-30-2021, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat

It is weird how they didn't include barely any silvers that weren't in previous missions. Maybe they were trying to throw the speculators for a loop.

Right. And I can’t afford to speculate heavily on historicals; more so holding onto my non-dupe silver/gold because I figured they’d be included in something. I was pretty shocked to see them double and triple-up on those that were already included in other collections.

OMGPuppies · 07-30-2021, 01:22 PM

Yesterday proved a disaster for my foray into historical silver speculation. I’m going back to Live. If only the Live updates were more frequent. It would bring more excitement into the game.

professor ape · 07-30-2021, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat

Agreed there. The problem is they are not really playable IMO (Pedro of course, maybe a couple others, but for the most part no)

The TM2 cards are not playable at higher levels and I did not expect them to be. I’m looking for the upcoming FH2 cards to be significantly stronger…hopefully.

Magus978 · 07-30-2021, 01:38 PM

Completing the collections to get the toppers is out of reach for all but the savviest F2P players. My only option is to sell pieces and then buy the ones I need to continue my FH chains outright.

Only way I'll see that Pedro on any of my teams is if I score a monster pack pull and cash it in so I can buy one. With the way my packs have been the past few weeks, I'm in no real danger of ever acquiring him.

chazzycat · 07-30-2021, 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by professor ape

The TM2 cards are not playable at higher levels and I did not expect them to be. I’m looking for the upcoming FH2 cards to be significantly stronger…hopefully.

Ah gotcha. Yeah, I hope so as well. They better be! The costs are pretty dang high. I was hoping to be fully prepared with all 30 teams...looks like it's going to be closer to 20 after last night. Still not terrible for F2P I guess.

professor ape · 07-30-2021, 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat

Ah gotcha. Yeah, I hope so as well. They better be! The costs are pretty dang high. I was hoping to be fully prepared with all 30 teams...looks like it's going to be closer to 20 after last night. Still not terrible for F2P I guess.

Your twenty beats my seven. Unless I have a great tourney run, my goal is to have all four pieces for three additional teams over this week and maybe 2-3 more the following week.

IanIachimoe · 07-30-2021, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by TwanLX2000

Maybe they thought they were doing us a favor by including the silver and gold cards to earn *something* towards this collection, but for those of us still chasing the lower cards for other collections, it made finishing those out-of-reach as well, and I was halfway invested. Thus, it took away ANY option for me to spend in a manner that can improve my team, even the more economical ones. That's my chief criticism, and I acknowledge that it may be specific to how my team is built, through tournament packs and collections.

not specific, sounds like we are in the same boat. not really sure where to go from here.

chazzycat · 07-30-2021, 01:55 PM

I'm counting my blessings that I had made pretty substantial progress on most of the teams in the East, and was able to complete that set last night without completely breaking the bank. Pedro is just soooo much better than the other toppers, so that was very fortunate. He'll be pitching my wild card game Sunday morning.

Ty Cobb · 07-30-2021, 02:02 PM

I don't even see bones being tossed to the FTP crowd. Add in the tightening down on reward points (won 25 in a row, got 3k instead of last year's 7 for example), and I've nowhere to go. I've managed 2 gold WS trophies this year, but I see that quickly vanishing as well. The tyranny of plutocracy has come as was foretold.

I'm playing an email game with a friend who lives 1,000 miles away. Play game, zip league, u/l to Mega, and email a link...sort of like chess by mail/email for those old enough to remember either. He's in the AL, I'm in the NL, and we're hoping to do a head to head when the fall rolls around. Darn fine fun, and no hosting fees!

IanIachimoe · 07-30-2021, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat

I'm counting my blessings that I had made pretty substantial progress on most of the teams in the East, and was able to complete that set last night without completely breaking the bank. Pedro is just soooo much better than the other toppers, so that was very fortunate. He'll be pitching my wild card game Sunday morning.

NICE WORK.

hitting those Historical All Stars before last night's drop was huge. prices tripled. not sure how I'll do it without some major pack luck.

IanIachimoe · 07-30-2021, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Ty Cobb

I don't even see bones being tossed to the FTP crowd. Add in the tightening down on reward points (won 25 in a row, got 3k instead of last year's 7 for example), and I've nowhere to go. I've managed 2 gold WS trophies this year, but I see that quickly vanishing as well. The tyranny of plutocracy has come as was foretold.

thankful for perfect draft, and being somewhat decent at it, or I'd be dead in the water already. there is hope, but not sure how much time I want to keep putting into it.

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I'm playing an email game with a friend who lives 1,000 miles away. Play game, zip league, u/l to Mega, and email a link...sort of like chess by mail/email for those old enough to remember either. He's in the AL, I'm in the NL, and we're hoping to do a head to head when the fall rolls around. Darn fine fun, and no hosting fees!

that sounds like a good time.

Ty Cobb · 07-30-2021, 11:21 PM

It is indeed a good time. The pace is slow (mostly because I've bn moving and selling the old dump, but that's now done) and you have time to consider your moves. Also, it's made me a friend...and that is F****** GOLD.

daves · 07-31-2021, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by chazzycat

I think a lot of people were discouraged by the mission drop last night, for various reasons. They are quite difficult missions for bad reward cards for the most part, with the major exception of Pedro. If this is just TM#2, I shudder to imagine how difficult TM#3 will be.

Will there be a TM#3? Or will it end at Franchise Hero #2?

daves · 07-31-2021, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by IanIachimoe

thankful for perfect draft, and being somewhat decent at it, or I'd be dead in the water already. there is hope, but not sure how much time I want to keep putting into it.

I am not sure if one needs to be good or lucky in the Perfect draft. When I pick a starting catcher, the next set to draft from seems to have a better one or even 2? Or when I am holding off for a backup Catcher in the final 3 rounds and none drop. I think I can may a great team of relievers since this position seems to crowd my draft choices?

07-30-2021, 11:20 AM	#1
TwanLX2000 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2021 Posts: 197	Somewhat discouraged Poor projection on my behalf, perhaps: it killed me that so many of the silver/gold cards I was chasing to finish BAL collections were added to TM2. In many ways, TM2 was an auto-reward collection to those who had already built their BALs... which would be fine if both collections weren't continual builds for yet other future collections and toppers. I'm not sure where to go from here. The idea of paying 2-3 times as much for cards to complete collections that came out months ago is not ideal, but I don't really have anything else to work on that doesn't include cards being used a second or third time. I mean, the easiest way to complete TM2 is still with the diamond cards, but by including all the same silvers and golds, I've ran out of available real estate. Maybe this is just me. __________________ Working hard to be in the conversation. Last edited by TwanLX2000; 07-30-2021 at 11:21 AM.

07-30-2021, 01:22 PM	#8
OMGPuppies All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2018 Posts: 1,627	Yesterday proved a disaster for my foray into historical silver speculation. I’m going back to Live. If only the Live updates were more frequent. It would bring more excitement into the game. __________________

07-30-2021, 01:38 PM	#10
Magus978 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Behind you. BOO! Posts: 1,894	Completing the collections to get the toppers is out of reach for all but the savviest F2P players. My only option is to sell pieces and then buy the ones I need to continue my FH chains outright. Only way I'll see that Pedro on any of my teams is if I score a monster pack pull and cash it in so I can buy one. With the way my packs have been the past few weeks, I'm in no real danger of ever acquiring him. __________________ Never forgive, never forget. http://twitch.tv/GanbaMagus

07-30-2021, 02:02 PM	#15
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 4,569	I don't even see bones being tossed to the FTP crowd. Add in the tightening down on reward points (won 25 in a row, got 3k instead of last year's 7 for example), and I've nowhere to go. I've managed 2 gold WS trophies this year, but I see that quickly vanishing as well. The tyranny of plutocracy has come as was foretold. I'm playing an email game with a friend who lives 1,000 miles away. Play game, zip league, u/l to Mega, and email a link...sort of like chess by mail/email for those old enough to remember either. He's in the AL, I'm in the NL, and we're hoping to do a head to head when the fall rolls around. Darn fine fun, and no hosting fees! __________________ "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me." Thanos

07-30-2021, 11:21 PM	#18
Ty Cobb Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Grayling, MI Posts: 4,569	It is indeed a good time. The pace is slow (mostly because I've bn moving and selling the old dump, but that's now done) and you have time to consider your moves. Also, it's made me a friend...and that is F****** GOLD. __________________ "You could not live with your own failure. Where did that bring you? Back to me." Thanos

07-30-2021, 12:33 PM	#2
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	I think a lot of people were discouraged by the mission drop last night, for various reasons. They are quite difficult missions for bad reward cards for the most part, with the major exception of Pedro. If this is just TM#2, I shudder to imagine how difficult TM#3 will be.

07-30-2021, 12:46 PM	#3
professor ape All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: The belly of the beast Posts: 1,498	I’m fine with the difficulty as long as the FH2 cards are a significant step up in quality from the FH1 set. If they are going to be playable cards at high levels then they should be tough to get. Having a larger set of strong cards out there will make for more variety of lineups at the Diamond and Perfect levels. We should have to make choices and not count on completing everything. That would be boring. I’m a F2P guy who grinds the tournaments for packs and am feeling pretty good this morning that I have all four components for the upcoming FH2 missions for seven of the thirty teams. I am one mission away for twelve other teams but completing those twelve would probably cost me close to a million PPs. It would take a lot more to complete all thirty. That feels right to me. __________________

07-30-2021, 01:08 PM	#6
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	It is weird how they didn't include barely any silvers that weren't in previous missions. Maybe they were trying to throw the speculators for a loop.

07-30-2021, 01:55 PM	#14
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	I'm counting my blessings that I had made pretty substantial progress on most of the teams in the East, and was able to complete that set last night without completely breaking the bank. Pedro is just soooo much better than the other toppers, so that was very fortunate. He'll be pitching my wild card game Sunday morning.