Gate Share Lost/Gained Impacting Revenue Budget Improperly

coljesep · 07-09-2021, 10:25 AM

I believe the expected budget for the upcoming year is not adding in the value of gate share properly which negatively impacts the financial health of league play.

This league is a 20% visitor gate share, does not include season tickets in that total.

Budgets are entire revenue available.

In the attached image you can see from left to right the projected finance in 20-21-22.

As you can see in v22, the gate share gained is +$12,770,319.

However, that total of earned revenue is not attributed in the projected budget for next year.

Typically projected budgets are 1-2 mil away from the exact number. But in this case, my v22 budget is projected about 14 mil off my total revenue.

This is clearly an issue, especially if it's going to impact my actual budget next year.

This number as you know impacts $ for extensions. In v 20, my money for extensions is $27,412,904 but in 22 its $15,310,904. Which is just over a $12million difference which not coincidentally is the rounded number of the gate share gained.

I also believe that if a team has a NEGATIVE number in the Gate Share LOST, that number is actually improperly turned into a positive and added to the team's projected budget.

Thank You!

coljesep · 07-09-2021, 11:04 AM

Just adding a negative gate lost example.

Same league. Screenshot is v20 and v22.

As you can see, this team is getting an ADD of revenue to their budget that they did not actually earn.

Matt Arnold · 07-09-2021, 11:12 AM

Can you upload your league file? Would like to investigate what's going on explicitly in this case. Thanks

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RonCo · 07-09-2021, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Can you upload your league file? Would like to investigate what's going on explicitly in this case. Thanks

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I assume this is another instance of what we've been chatting about for the past day or two.

RonCo · 07-09-2021, 05:52 PM

My expectation here is that the problem is that the End of Year Gate receipt projections are not being properly projected. There is also the point that (I think) season ticket sales were reduced and gate attendance increased, which will make the owner cut future budgets early in that first V22 year, and slowly eek them up as gate receipts come in. If I'm right, the impact of that behavior on future budgets will go away in year two of V22.

07-09-2021, 10:25 AM	#1
coljesep All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 'Merica Posts: 569	Gate Share Lost/Gained Impacting Revenue Budget Improperly I believe the expected budget for the upcoming year is not adding in the value of gate share properly which negatively impacts the financial health of league play. This league is a 20% visitor gate share, does not include season tickets in that total. Budgets are entire revenue available. In the attached image you can see from left to right the projected finance in 20-21-22. As you can see in v22, the gate share gained is +$12,770,319. However, that total of earned revenue is not attributed in the projected budget for next year. Typically projected budgets are 1-2 mil away from the exact number. But in this case, my v22 budget is projected about 14 mil off my total revenue. This is clearly an issue, especially if it's going to impact my actual budget next year. This number as you know impacts $ for extensions. In v 20, my money for extensions is $27,412,904 but in 22 its $15,310,904. Which is just over a $12million difference which not coincidentally is the rounded number of the gate share gained. I also believe that if a team has a NEGATIVE number in the Gate Share LOST, that number is actually improperly turned into a positive and added to the team's projected budget. Thank You! Attached Images __________________ Commissioner of the VBL 2012-Present (no team) http://www.thevbl.org General Manager for London Hotspur 2032 & 2040 World Champion https://baseball-stars.com/

07-09-2021, 11:04 AM	#2
coljesep All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: 'Merica Posts: 569	Just adding a negative gate lost example. Same league. Screenshot is v20 and v22. As you can see, this team is getting an ADD of revenue to their budget that they did not actually earn. Attached Images __________________ Commissioner of the VBL 2012-Present (no team) http://www.thevbl.org General Manager for London Hotspur 2032 & 2040 World Champion https://baseball-stars.com/

07-09-2021, 11:12 AM	#3
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,833	Can you upload your league file? Would like to investigate what's going on explicitly in this case. Thanks Sent from my SM-A526W using Tapatalk

07-09-2021, 05:52 PM	#5
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 10,359	My expectation here is that the problem is that the End of Year Gate receipt projections are not being properly projected. There is also the point that (I think) season ticket sales were reduced and gate attendance increased, which will make the owner cut future budgets early in that first V22 year, and slowly eek them up as gate receipts come in. If I'm right, the impact of that behavior on future budgets will go away in year two of V22.