Preventing Teens from being called up

[mrbadguy]

Im playing in 1957 and find there a too many young players (teens) playing in the majors. I understand a few players did make debut as a teen but most have arrived at majors 3-4 years befoer they really did.

While some are used sparingly, some are playing way too much. ieDick McAuliffe is 17 and playing everyday at SS

Is there not an option for players to come up when they actually made their debut? or an option on age limit?

thanks

[LordTC]

The latest patch was supposed to fix this although I'm not certain it does. If you don't want to wait for another fix, you can try hand tuning the player development speed modifier downwards. It will fix things going forward but it doesn't fix how developed your players are.

I think you can also set an age limit for the league if you just want to hard prevent it, but I haven't done that before. That might be better since you have a game where you already have overdeveloped youngsters.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by LordTC

The latest patch was supposed to fix this although I'm not certain it does. If you don't want to wait for another fix, you can try hand tuning the player development speed modifier downwards. It will fix things going forward but it doesn't fix how developed your players are.

I think you can also set an age limit for the league if you just want to hard prevent it, but I haven't done that before. That might be better since you have a game where you already have overdeveloped youngsters.

If he's playing historical, this is unlikely a development issue since typically historical doesn't use development (unless it's specifically set up to do so).

It's just likely that some young guys who are future MLB players had such good milb stats that they get overly good ratings a bit too soon. This is almost impossible to get perfect in the historical minors since there is such a wide range of statistical result at so many different levels, and sometime a guy who hit .380 at AA is just going to get better ratings than a guy who hit .180 in MLB.

One thing that can potentially help smooth this out a bit is to set the ai settings to use stats a bit more than the ratings.

Age limits in MLB could also help as well, but those could also block some guys who actually debuted as teens, so it's kind of a question of which is the least bad option for your personal play style.

[mrbadguy]

Maybe the success in minors and some good ratings in an area make a difference. In McAuliffe's case he was just drafted and played 10 games in minors (.341 avg) before being called up.
Ive never thought of "player development speed modifier downward" as Ive never even looked at that option before.

Here is his profile. I think the very good Defensive ratings helped, but still dont like 17 and 18 year olds coming up.

[KBLover]

Originally Posted by mrbadguy

Is there not an option for players to come up when they actually made their debut? or an option on age limit?

I don't know if this would work and I don't play historical games, but would putting the age minimum at the ML level to 21 stop it?

Again, I have no idea what this would do to the AI or if it would help at all, but maybe it's the least "rabbit hole" thing to try?

[fnz]

Originally Posted by KBLover

I don't know if this would work and I don't play historical games, but would putting the age minimum at the ML level to 21 stop it?

Again, I have no idea what this would do to the AI or if it would help at all, but maybe it's the least "rabbit hole" thing to try?

Can't speak for the original poster, but I've set age limits in my saves (21 for the major league, and then different ones for each minor league). While teams no longer promote anyone below the age limit, it's because they've released everyone in the organization who is below the age limit.

So if I set the age minimum to be 21, every minor leaguer under 21 is released tot he FA pool. It's as if the major league age limit applies to every level, even though those minor league limits were set up to include guys under 21.

*This was in a historical save.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by fnz

Can't speak for the original poster, but I've set age limits in my saves (21 for the major league, and then different ones for each minor league). While teams no longer promote anyone below the age limit, it's because they've released everyone in the organization who is below the age limit.

So if I set the age minimum to be 21, every minor leaguer under 21 is released tot he FA pool. It's as if the major league age limit applies to every level, even though those minor league limits were set up to include guys under 21.

*This was in a historical save.

That's obviously not supposed to be happening If you can report this in the bugs forum and also include a copy of your saved game files where this happened if at all possible, we can take a look at that and try to get it fixed up.

[DCG12]

My question is did the OP use an altered database or alter something himself because if this is an out of the box historical game then players should show up in the draft of their real life debut year.

McAuliffe debuted in 1960 but in the screenshot it shows him being drafted in 1956. So something has been done to bring players in early.

[Tiger Fan]

Originally Posted by DCG12

My question is did the OP use an altered database or alter something himself because if this is an out of the box historical game then players should show up in the draft of their real life debut year.

McAuliffe debuted in 1960 but in the screenshot it shows him being drafted in 1956. So something has been done to bring players in early.

His minor league debut was ‘57 so he would be part of the draft following the 1956 season when use real minor leagues and players is enabled.

[DCG12]

Originally Posted by Tiger Fan

His minor league debut was ‘57 so he would be part of the draft following the 1956 season when use real minor leagues and players is enabled.

Ok. Makes sense. I admit I always use reserve rosters for historical. So another question answered.