My Lineups Keep Changing! How Do I Stop That?

chucksabr · 01-12-2021, 03:04 PM

I have a historical league (I am now controlling the 1946 Tigers), and every time I set the lineup, whether vs RHP or LHP, the game keeps changing them. It's irritating because the game keeps trying to sit my two best players, and it wants to bat Hank Greenberg fifth behind a .080 hitter. No matter what I change the lineup to, the game changes it back every day.

How do I prevent this? Is there a setting I am missing?

Smirley · 01-12-2021, 03:36 PM

Do you have legacy mode turned on? That setting makes it so that all human GMs take control of lineups and depth charts

RchW · 01-12-2021, 03:54 PM

The only reliable method I've found is to use 7-day lineups as seen below.

BusterKing · 01-12-2021, 05:21 PM

Have you tried this:

Activate commissioner mode and then go to your team settings and place a check mark in the box, deactivate commissioner mode.

Beware that you will need to keep track of your player fatigue and make the changes yourself.

chucksabr · 01-12-2021, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Smirley

Do you have legacy mode turned on? That setting makes it so that all human GMs take control of lineups and depth charts

Got me. Where's legacy mode? I just scoured the online manual and I can't even locate it.

chucksabr · 01-12-2021, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BusterKing

Have you tried this:

Activate commissioner mode and then go to your team settings and place a check mark in the box, deactivate commissioner mode.

Beware that you will need to keep track of your player fatigue and make the changes yourself.

See, now, that's the part I don't really want.

Fact is, I am tracking the career of a single fictional player I created to play in the real-world major leagues. He's one of the greatest players in history--in fact, he just won the 1945 AL MVP. Roy Cullenbine was MVP runner-up. Yet, my AI manager is sitting both of them and is batting some guy named Anse Moore cleanup over Hank Greenberg. It makes no sense.

I want AI to set the lineup, because I don't want to be bothered with much of anything beyond tracking my fictional guy, but I want also AI to do it logically. Play Cullenbine in RF every game. Bat Hank Greenberg cleanup instead of fifth after a cipher. Bat my fictional superduperstar third. In fact, in my guy's player strategy card I am telling the game to force him to bat third in the order. Doesn't matter. AI is still sitting my guy. I still have to go in and manually change the lineup every single game. I'm thinking I shouldn't have to. The game should know better.

Shouldn't it? Or is that asking too much?

chucksabr · 01-12-2021, 06:56 PM

Actually, what I have going on is worst of both worlds: even though I have AI controlling the lineup, when a real-life move is made and a player is traded or released, it forces me to manually fill the holes left in the lineups that result, instead of AI doing that for me. Yet, when I make my own changes in the lineup, AI changes it right back to what it had before.

Smirley · 01-12-2021, 07:50 PM

When you go under game settings its at the very bottom of the global settings on the left side. Its a checkbox that when checked Legacy-mode is enabled.

chucksabr · 01-13-2021, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Smirley

When you go under game settings its at the very bottom of the global settings on the left side. Its a checkbox that when checked Legacy-mode is enabled.

Oh, now I see it. Thanks.

"GM-only users are always in control of lineups": If I'm reading this right, it looks like if I disable legacy-mode, I will be responsible for all my own lineups and AI will not have any input into it. Is that right?

EDIT: Oh, well, never mind about legacy mode, I guess, because even with the box checked IT STILL DOESN'T WORK. Even with legacy mode on, it still plays whoever the hell it wants. Now Greenberg is sitting down, and the CF slot where my fictional players is supposed to play is not even being filled.

Hey, I appreciate you guys trying to help. I (obviously) have no idea why it's not working but I am definitely not blaming you for it. Looks like maybe a bug in this game? Who knows. If you get any more ideas, though, I am all ears.

Thanks again.

Andy · 01-13-2021, 10:58 AM

Do you have Do Not Disturb checked?

eldur00 · 01-13-2021, 02:09 PM

What I've found out over the years is that when the CPU does that to me, for me personally, it's always the depth charts settings that I have messed up. So if you have your lesser players set to come in ever other game for example, that would be why your lineups get messed up. Especially since you want the AI to handle your lineups, you may be clicking the button to have it set up everything, and if you don't go back and check the depth charts, the culprit might very well lie there.

chucksabr · 01-13-2021, 07:24 PM

Oh, now I get what's happening: AI is employing the actual lineup the actual Detroit Tigers fielded on that actual date in actual history. I looked at the 1946 Tigers batting orders and, yup, Greenberg did bat fifth behind Anse Moore for a couple of weeks. It's also why Cullenbine and my fictional player aren't starting: they didn't start on that actual date in history.

Now that I have identified the problem, can anyone help me figure out how to stop it from employing actual date-in-history lineups and start employing a logical lineup based on how the team is doing instead?

chucksabr · 01-13-2021, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Andy

Do you have Do Not Disturb checked?

No sir, I do not.

Quote:

Originally Posted by eldur00

What I've found out over the years is that when the CPU does that to me, for me personally, it's always the depth charts settings that I have messed up. So if you have your lesser players set to come in ever other game for example, that would be why your lineups get messed up. Especially since you want the AI to handle your lineups, you may be clicking the button to have it set up everything, and if you don't go back and check the depth charts, the culprit might very well lie there.

It keeps changing all the depth charts on me, too.

Matt Arnold · 01-13-2021, 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by chucksabr

Oh, now I get what's happening: AI is employing the actual lineup the actual Detroit Tigers fielded on that actual date in actual history. I looked at the 1946 Tigers batting orders and, yup, Greenberg did bat fifth behind Anse Moore for a couple of weeks. It's also why Cullenbine and my fictional player aren't starting: they didn't start on that actual date in history.

Now that I have identified the problem, can anyone help me figure out how to stop it from employing actual date-in-history lineups and start employing a logical lineup based on how the team is doing instead?

If you go to the historical options in your game setup, you probably have "historical lineups" checked.

chucksabr · 01-13-2021, 07:41 PM

FOUND IT!

Historical lineups was checked.

I have never played with that option before so I never thought to look at it.

Now here's a question: it says injuries and suspensions will be automatically disabled. Does that mean that there will be no injuries and now everyone becomes an iron man? Or does that mean that it simply will not follow historical injuries and will instead work out its own injury profile?

EDIT: I was writing this as Matt posted his fix.

01-12-2021, 03:04 PM	#1
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	My Lineups Keep Changing! How Do I Stop That? I have a historical league (I am now controlling the 1946 Tigers), and every time I set the lineup, whether vs RHP or LHP, the game keeps changing them. It's irritating because the game keeps trying to sit my two best players, and it wants to bat Hank Greenberg fifth behind a .080 hitter. No matter what I change the lineup to, the game changes it back every day. How do I prevent this? Is there a setting I am missing? __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

01-12-2021, 03:54 PM	#3
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01-12-2021, 06:56 PM	#7
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Actually, what I have going on is worst of both worlds: even though I have AI controlling the lineup, when a real-life move is made and a player is traded or released, it forces me to manually fill the holes left in the lineups that result, instead of AI doing that for me. Yet, when I make my own changes in the lineup, AI changes it right back to what it had before. __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League Last edited by chucksabr; 01-12-2021 at 06:57 PM.

01-13-2021, 07:24 PM	#12
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	Oh, now I get what's happening: AI is employing the actual lineup the actual Detroit Tigers fielded on that actual date in actual history. I looked at the 1946 Tigers batting orders and, yup, Greenberg did bat fifth behind Anse Moore for a couple of weeks. It's also why Cullenbine and my fictional player aren't starting: they didn't start on that actual date in history. Now that I have identified the problem, can anyone help me figure out how to stop it from employing actual date-in-history lineups and start employing a logical lineup based on how the team is doing instead? __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

01-13-2021, 07:41 PM	#15
chucksabr Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: In the canyons of your mind Posts: 3,194	FOUND IT! Historical lineups was checked. I have never played with that option before so I never thought to look at it. Now here's a question: it says injuries and suspensions will be automatically disabled. Does that mean that there will be no injuries and now everyone becomes an iron man? Or does that mean that it simply will not follow historical injuries and will instead work out its own injury profile? EDIT: I was writing this as Matt posted his fix. __________________ The (English) Baseball League (est. 1888): A History The 1932 Season is Underway Dynasty Mission \| Creation Story \| Subscribe 1888 1889 1890 1891 1892 1893 1894 1895 1896 1897 1898 1899 1900 1901 1902 1903 1904 1905 1906 1907 1908 1909 1910 1911 1912 1913 1914 (Great War Hiatus) 1919 1920 1921 1922 1923 1924 1925 1926 1927 1928 1929 1930 1931 The OOTP Interview about the Baseball League

01-12-2021, 03:36 PM	#2
Smirley Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 27	Do you have legacy mode turned on? That setting makes it so that all human GMs take control of lineups and depth charts

01-12-2021, 05:21 PM	#4
BusterKing Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,431	Have you tried this: Activate commissioner mode and then go to your team settings and place a check mark in the box, deactivate commissioner mode. Beware that you will need to keep track of your player fatigue and make the changes yourself.

01-12-2021, 07:50 PM	#8
Smirley Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2017 Posts: 27	When you go under game settings its at the very bottom of the global settings on the left side. Its a checkbox that when checked Legacy-mode is enabled.

01-13-2021, 10:58 AM	#10
Andy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Dayton, OH Posts: 2,267	Do you have Do Not Disturb checked?

01-13-2021, 02:09 PM	#11
eldur00 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 506	What I've found out over the years is that when the CPU does that to me, for me personally, it's always the depth charts settings that I have messed up. So if you have your lesser players set to come in ever other game for example, that would be why your lineups get messed up. Especially since you want the AI to handle your lineups, you may be clicking the button to have it set up everything, and if you don't go back and check the depth charts, the culprit might very well lie there.