What to look for in a leadoff hitter?

BathshebasTub · 11-09-2020, 01:01 PM

Right now I invested a lot of extra perfect points in a Wille Mays card. Because he has great contact ratings against both righties and lefties, I have him in my leadoff spot. But are there other stats that I should be looking at? Does flyball tendency mean a bad leadoff hitter? Should I be looking at a more neutral hitter?

Thanks for the advice! First year doing perfect team and I am LOVING it!

chazzycat · 11-09-2020, 01:29 PM

OBP comes first, so basically contact (with low power rating), and eye rating. Then of course base stealing ability is a nice bonus (ideally both speed and stealing over 100 with stealing higher than speed).

CBeisbol · 11-09-2020, 01:35 PM

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What to look for in a leadoff hitter?

The ability to get on base.

Power is *a bit* wasted in the lesdoff spot since the worst hitters in the lineup are probably hitting at the end of the lineup, thus in front of the leadoff hitter.

BathshebasTub · 11-09-2020, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by CBeisbol

The ability to get on base.

Power is *a bit* wasted in the lesdoff spot since the worst hitters in the lineup are probably hitting at the end of the lineup, thus in front of the leadoff hitter.

So what is the best determining factor? Contact? Avoid K's and Eye Discipline?

What is more improtant, avoid k's or eye discipline?

Dogberry99 · 11-09-2020, 02:32 PM

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So what is the best determining factor? Contact? Avoid K's and Eye Discipline?

What is more improtant, avoid k's or eye discipline?

Isn't this the same thing as asking what the current meta is for the game?

Also, as someone struggling to get back into 21, what is the current meta for the game?

dkgo · 11-09-2020, 03:03 PM

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So what is the best determining factor? Contact? Avoid K's and Eye Discipline?

What is more improtant, avoid k's or eye discipline?

What if you looked at several players with various ratings and compare their stats over a couple seasons instead of asking us to play the game for you...

BathshebasTub · 11-09-2020, 03:18 PM

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What if you looked at several players with various ratings and compare their stats over a couple seasons instead of asking us to play the game for you...

Sorry to be a bother. Just trying to learn.

CBeisbol · 11-09-2020, 04:12 PM

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What if you looked at several players with various ratings and compare their stats over a couple seasons

This is good advice

Ask 10 different people, you're going to get maybe not 10, but a few different answers.

I can say with certainty that a batter with a high contact rating, a high avoid K rating and a high eye rating I would expect to have a high OBP

dboeyr12007 · 11-09-2020, 06:10 PM

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Sorry to be a bother. Just trying to learn.

You are fine. It does help to look and find a guy you personally like, but the community should be here to help people out. Researching yourself will help you to be a better player in the long run, but nothing wrong with looking to get pointed in the right direction. I do not get why people have to be rude, and make people feel bad for having a question.

Timofmars · 11-09-2020, 08:30 PM

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I can say with certainty that a batter with a high contact rating, a high avoid K rating and a high eye rating I would expect to have a high OBP

I would ignore avoid K rating, since it's already factored into contact rating. I look at avoid K as just an indicator of how the guy gets out. Is it by hitting the ball in play or by striking out. Avoid K means more chance of advancing runners without a earning a hit, more chance of double play, and better ability to make contact on hit and run. At least that's what I believe.

dboeyr12007 · 11-09-2020, 08:50 PM

Unless I am completely mistaken, Avoid K and Contact are totally different. Avoid K is their tendency to not strike out, and contact is likelihood of getting a hit when the ball is put in play or in other terms BABIP. Therefore If you have a low Avoid K then you are striking out a ton and even with a high contact rating the player will struggle to have a consistent batting average.

Timofmars · 11-09-2020, 08:56 PM

If you turn on commissioner mode and go into the player editor, you can play with the numbers. Contact is made up of a combination of Avoid Ks and a normally hidden BABIP value. Whatever adjustments you make there, the final contact rating predicts the batting average.

Thundercrack · 11-09-2020, 10:15 PM

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If you turn on commissioner mode and go into the player editor, you can play with the numbers. Contact is made up of a combination of Avoid Ks and a normally hidden BABIP value. Whatever adjustments you make there, the final contact rating predicts the batting average.

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Thundercrack · 11-09-2020, 10:21 PM

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What if you looked at several players with various ratings and compare their stats over a couple seasons instead of asking us to play the game for you...

What if you didn’t respond at all instead of making the guy feel bad for being curious and asking a reasonable question...

OMGPuppies · 11-10-2020, 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BathshebasTub

Right now I invested a lot of extra perfect points in a Wille Mays card. Because he has great contact ratings against both righties and lefties, I have him in my leadoff spot. But are there other stats that I should be looking at? Does flyball tendency mean a bad leadoff hitter? Should I be looking at a more neutral hitter?

Thanks for the advice! First year doing perfect team and I am LOVING it!

Get a guy that can hit some dingers and haul in the achievements

2tango2 · 11-16-2020, 06:25 AM

Can never go wrong with Rickey leading off vL at least

11-09-2020, 01:01 PM	#1
BathshebasTub Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: Chicago Posts: 12	What to look for in a leadoff hitter? Right now I invested a lot of extra perfect points in a Wille Mays card. Because he has great contact ratings against both righties and lefties, I have him in my leadoff spot. But are there other stats that I should be looking at? Does flyball tendency mean a bad leadoff hitter? Should I be looking at a more neutral hitter? Thanks for the advice! First year doing perfect team and I am LOVING it! __________________ I like this game. I am bad at this game. But isn't baseball all about overcoming failure anyway?

11-09-2020, 08:50 PM	#11
dboeyr12007 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2020 Posts: 268	Unless I am completely mistaken, Avoid K and Contact are totally different. Avoid K is their tendency to not strike out, and contact is likelihood of getting a hit when the ball is put in play or in other terms BABIP. Therefore If you have a low Avoid K then you are striking out a ton and even with a high contact rating the player will struggle to have a consistent batting average. __________________

11-16-2020, 06:25 AM	#16
2tango2 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2020 Location: AZ Posts: 265	Can never go wrong with Rickey leading off vL at least __________________ PT21 PT22

11-09-2020, 01:29 PM	#2
chazzycat All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2014 Posts: 1,685	OBP comes first, so basically contact (with low power rating), and eye rating. Then of course base stealing ability is a nice bonus (ideally both speed and stealing over 100 with stealing higher than speed).

11-09-2020, 08:56 PM	#12
Timofmars Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2018 Posts: 251	If you turn on commissioner mode and go into the player editor, you can play with the numbers. Contact is made up of a combination of Avoid Ks and a normally hidden BABIP value. Whatever adjustments you make there, the final contact rating predicts the batting average.