ever wonder what happens if set all potential to 250?

[fredbeene]

ever wonder what happens if set all potential to 250 for power for a complete team, including pitchers?
i did this with 1959 orioles , 1960 orioles.. takes about 5 mins to manually change each player on the active roster
Just used AI and simmed season

well...not much.
no one over 29 can have their potential change.

some players get demoted for worse players on the reserve roster.
some players had worse stats from previous years.
no one had more than 2 homers increase from previous year (if they played) EXCEPT billy consolo who hit 9 homers
not one pitcher had more than 3 pitchers had one homer, the rest zero.

if you go back into the editor, some players power potential drifts down to 220....others stay at 250....at seasons end.
if you check again after playoffs, there are more dramatic changes
ie tony kubek reverted potential power from 250 to 41


one trade occured: bob turley and billy consolo to CWS for bill virdon


what does it mean??
out of 25 players i would have expected some noticeable increase...even frank robinson (moving from 80 to 100) did not have better season.

to me, there really is no way to develop skills

[fredbeene]

Originally Posted by fredbeene

ever wonder what happens if set all potential to 250 for power for a complete team, including pitchers?
i did this with 1959 orioles , 1960 orioles.. takes about 5 mins to manually change each player on the active roster
Just used AI and simmed season

well...not much.
no one over 29 can have their potential change.

some players get demoted for worse players on the reserve roster.
some players had worse stats from previous years.
no one had more than 2 homers increase from previous year (if they played) EXCEPT billy consolo who hit 9 homers
not one pitcher had more than 3 pitchers had one homer, the rest zero.

if you go back into the editor, some players power potential drifts down to 220....others stay at 250....at seasons end.
if you check again after playoffs, there are more dramatic changes
ie tony kubek reverted potential power from 250 to 41


one trade occured: bob turley and billy consolo to CWS for bill virdon


what does it mean??
out of 25 players i would have expected some noticeable increase...even frank robinson (moving from 80 to 100) did not have better season.

to me, there really is no way to develop skills

So then someone like bill virdon...who when upped to 250 power potential managed to hit 17 homeruns as a 29 year old......once he turned 30 the next year he hit 5 homeruns (even though behind the scenes his power potential remained at the adjusted 250)
aging set to .006
recalc set checkbox not set

[Brad K]

How does potential have any effect on current year performance?

[Sweed]

No

[Rain King]

Yeah, I don't understand why you aren't changing their Current Ratings instead of their Potential.

[fredbeene]

because i want to import their peak season (which never occurs) and have some randomness about who continues to perform better.
it feels less like cheating and i don't have time to change tons of people everytime i play.
bottom line potentials do not work and there is no true development.....slowing aging has no effect

[fredbeene]

Originally Posted by Brad K

How does potential have any effect on current year performance?

why wouldnt potential effect performance??
players don't develop during the year they actually play?? silly

[Rain King]

Why would you expect players to develop late in their career in that way? You want the game to do something very specific and unnatural. The game should not be having guys make large jumps in ability later in their careers. If you want them to do that you are going to need to adjust their actual ratings.

[Charley575]

In addition to the excellent points people have made above...
It also sounds like you are playing a historical replay in which case players only develop if you select the option in the settings to use the OOTP Development Engine. If not, player development is disabled. Additionally, as I understand the development engine if you set all players to max potential the game won't like it and I can't tell you what the results would be but I do believe that the development engine is shooting for a target distribution of talent. If you max everybody out it seems to me the engine will just start nerfing players left and right. The engine isn't designed to max everybody out.

You have to remember that OOTP's game engine has certain statistical output totals that it is shooting for. So maxing out all players doesn't mean everybody will hit 60+ homers. It just means the total homeruns the game has to distribute will be doled out more or less equally..Another way of putting this is that the engine doesn't see the ratings as raw numbers. It sees them as relative numbers.

In short, you are pulling levers and mashing buttons on a machine you don't know how to operate.
Frankly I don't know if any of us do. Browse these forums and you will find endless theoretical discussions on how to tinker with stolen base success rates and so on.

[Bunktown Ballers]

Originally Posted by fredbeene

ever wonder what happens if set all potential to 250 for power for a complete team, including pitchers?
i did this with 1959 orioles , 1960 orioles.. takes about 5 mins to manually change each player on the active roster
Just used AI and simmed season

well...not much.
no one over 29 can have their potential change.

some players get demoted for worse players on the reserve roster.
some players had worse stats from previous years.
no one had more than 2 homers increase from previous year (if they played) EXCEPT billy consolo who hit 9 homers
not one pitcher had more than 3 pitchers had one homer, the rest zero.

if you go back into the editor, some players power potential drifts down to 220....others stay at 250....at seasons end.
if you check again after playoffs, there are more dramatic changes
ie tony kubek reverted potential power from 250 to 41


one trade occured: bob turley and billy consolo to CWS for bill virdon


what does it mean??
out of 25 players i would have expected some noticeable increase...even frank robinson (moving from 80 to 100) did not have better season.

to me, there really is no way to develop skills

LOL. been saying...rating are bunk....so much doesn't make sense

[RonCo]

RIght. Changing potentials only changes to likelihood, rate, and direction of future rating development. Ratings drive production. Resetting potential won't change actual performance unless enough time passes to drive ratings change.

[RonCo]

Originally Posted by Charley575

Additionally, as I understand the development engine if you set all players to max potential the game won't like it and I can't tell you what the results would be but I do believe that the development engine is shooting for a target distribution of talent. If you max everybody out it seems to me the engine will just start nerfing players left and right. The engine isn't designed to max everybody out.

Kind of.

You have to remember that OOTP's game engine has certain statistical output totals that it is shooting for. So maxing out all players doesn't mean everybody will hit 60+ homers. It just means the total homeruns the game has to distribute will be doled out more or less equally.

This isn't right. Maxing out ratings will make very big changes in stats. Maxing out potentials are different, though.