Too Many Shutouts on Default MLB Start?

torpidbeaver · 05-30-2020, 01:21 AM

Seems like players are in general going too long in games, but that might be my imagination. But the number of shutouts using the default settings on a current MLB season seems high.

I haven't run any tests or anything, but I'm 1/4 of the way through the season and I have 9 SHO in the league, including Marcus Stroman with 2. I think there were 19 in 2018, and 26 in 2019.

I think I noticed another post with much the same conclusion earlier in the year, but I couldn't find it. So here's another.

Is anyone else seeing too many shutouts? Is there a way to see how long my league's average starts are, innings wise? What can I do to cut down on the number of shutouts, if in fact they need cutting down?

EDIT: I ran a couple sims, and the shutouts are a little high, compared to previous years. But it seems like the complete games are maybe a bigger issue. My last two sims hit 75 CGs on average, while 2018 had 42 CGs, and 2019 had a total of 45 CGs (I think, by manually counting, so please excuse minor errors here).

torpidbeaver · 05-30-2020, 06:30 PM

Sim 4: 49 SHO, 90 CG
Sim 5: 30 SHO, 67 CG
Sim 6: 43 SHO, 80 CG
Sim 7: 40 SHO, 68 CG
Sim 8: 30 SHO, 70 CG
Sim 9: 33 SHO, 70 CG
Sim 10: 41 SHO, 77 CG
Sim 11: 32 SHO, 79 CG (including Greinke with 4 SHO/7 CG!)
Sim 12: 36 SHO, 74 CG
Sim 13: 43 SHO, 77 CG

Realized that those weren't even final regular season numbers - sims 5-9 went though about 155 games, as I forgot to make the game keep running through job offer emails. Close enough though, I guess.

slugga27 · 05-30-2020, 08:53 PM

What is your stamina setting at?

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Chomps · 05-30-2020, 08:55 PM

I am seeing shutouts just about every day. I think there is a problem also.

torpidbeaver · 05-30-2020, 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by slugga27

What is your stamina setting at?

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I'm playing the default MLB settings, the stamina is set at 1.219.

seven · 05-31-2020, 01:27 PM

It looks like this is a valid concern. I'm about 1/3 of the way through an AI controlled simulation of the 2020 MLB season using default settings. There are already 28 complete games across both leagues. According to Baseball Reference, last year there were a total of 45 over the whole year. So the simulation is nearly double the expected rate.

scott1964 · 05-31-2020, 05:09 PM

One time I added a minor league and somewhere along the way I had one minor league had a very disastrous year in which almost all the games were shut outs and around 40% of those were no hitters.

So a setting is off somewhere.

05-30-2020, 01:21 AM	#1
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 391	Too Many Shutouts on Default MLB Start? Seems like players are in general going too long in games, but that might be my imagination. But the number of shutouts using the default settings on a current MLB season seems high. I haven't run any tests or anything, but I'm 1/4 of the way through the season and I have 9 SHO in the league, including Marcus Stroman with 2. I think there were 19 in 2018, and 26 in 2019. I think I noticed another post with much the same conclusion earlier in the year, but I couldn't find it. So here's another. Is anyone else seeing too many shutouts? Is there a way to see how long my league's average starts are, innings wise? What can I do to cut down on the number of shutouts, if in fact they need cutting down? EDIT: I ran a couple sims, and the shutouts are a little high, compared to previous years. But it seems like the complete games are maybe a bigger issue. My last two sims hit 75 CGs on average, while 2018 had 42 CGs, and 2019 had a total of 45 CGs (I think, by manually counting, so please excuse minor errors here). Last edited by torpidbeaver; 05-30-2020 at 02:03 AM.

05-30-2020, 06:30 PM	#2
torpidbeaver Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2011 Posts: 391	Sim 4: 49 SHO, 90 CG Sim 5: 30 SHO, 67 CG Sim 6: 43 SHO, 80 CG Sim 7: 40 SHO, 68 CG Sim 8: 30 SHO, 70 CG Sim 9: 33 SHO, 70 CG Sim 10: 41 SHO, 77 CG Sim 11: 32 SHO, 79 CG (including Greinke with 4 SHO/7 CG!) Sim 12: 36 SHO, 74 CG Sim 13: 43 SHO, 77 CG Realized that those weren't even final regular season numbers - sims 5-9 went though about 155 games, as I forgot to make the game keep running through job offer emails. Close enough though, I guess. Last edited by torpidbeaver; 05-30-2020 at 10:52 PM.

05-31-2020, 05:09 PM	#7
scott1964 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 5,626	One time I added a minor league and somewhere along the way I had one minor league had a very disastrous year in which almost all the games were shut outs and around 40% of those were no hitters. So a setting is off somewhere. __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. PETA.....People Eating Tasty Animals.

05-30-2020, 08:53 PM	#3
slugga27 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 1,272	What is your stamina setting at? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

05-30-2020, 08:55 PM	#4
Chomps Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Taiwan Posts: 455	I am seeing shutouts just about every day. I think there is a problem also.

05-31-2020, 01:27 PM	#6
seven All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Victoria, Canada Posts: 652	It looks like this is a valid concern. I'm about 1/3 of the way through an AI controlled simulation of the 2020 MLB season using default settings. There are already 28 complete games across both leagues. According to Baseball Reference, last year there were a total of 45 over the whole year. So the simulation is nearly double the expected rate.