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OOTP 21 - General Discussions Everything about the brand new version of Out of the Park Baseball - officially licensed by MLB and the MLBPA. |
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An OOTP Cheat Sheet for Player Evaluation
UPDATE: July 3 2020
Cheat Sheet v1.2 The changes I've made are:
I think this updated Cheat Sheet looks better if you are going to print it out. The average and below-average column colors looked fine on screen and even printed by some printers. Many printers produced a page where the two columns were almost indistinguishable. If you don't print the Cheat Sheet, but rather leave it on screen in your web browser, I personally think the original Cheat Sheet looks a little better. But now, you all have a choice. Enjoy! ![]() ************************************************** ********************************* BELOW THIS LINE IS THE ORIGINAL POST ************* Download link for the cheatsheet Excel 2007 file: CLICK ME Feel free to right-click and save this image if you don't need the Excel file posted above. ![]() The actual image link: https://i.imgur.com/9NzzkIZ.png Here is the link to the original post where I began collecting information for the Cheat Sheet. I suggest reading through that because there is a wealth of information posted throughout the thread. CLICK ME A while back, I knew I wasn't evaluating players properly, so I asked for help. I asked the veteran OOTP players to give me suggestions on only a couple of stats they personally considered to be top of the list when looking to trade a player, pick up an MLB free agent, promoting players in the minors... you get the deal. I didn't want every known statistic for my cheat sheet. My goal was to make a chart that I could quickly refer to when I was in one of the previously mentioned situations, analyzing a player. The vast majority of data was obtained from Fangraphs.com or Baseball-Reference.com Please, feel free to edit this cheat sheet to best suit your needs. That is precisely why I included the Excel file. Also, remember that this data is meant to show a range that can be interpreted differently... it's your GM job...evaluate how you see fit. I hope this is useful for a few people. Finally, a big 'Thank You' to all of the members here (and Reddit) who gave me suggestions & advice.
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Thanks! This is great.
Thanks also for including the Excel sheet. I don't like modern baseball much and tend to play with historical settings (1950, 1980, etc.). Hopefully I can use FanGraphs, etc. to change the numbers for historical play. |
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I'd urge you to include the link to the original thread as there's a lot of good discussion there of how and why those stats are important and should be used
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wonderful post. this is very helpful
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Thanks for doing this, very cool. I both d'loaded the file (it opens in "open office" for those that don't have MS Office) and did a "save as" of the image.
For others that may try to print I had to do it in grey scale to have it readable. The black numbers in the green rows was hard to read, at least with my printer printing from the saved image. In any case very nice to have a printout of this sheet next to the computer ![]() thanks again. |
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Small update in the OP.
There are no changes to the format or the data. I made some cosmetic changes to provide a cleaner print out from some people's printers. If using Cheat Sheet on screen only, I personally prefer the original, but now you have a choice.
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Fun, kinda related fact - average OBP is ~.60 higher than AVG, so you can project that stat easly using contact and eye ratings..and doing the maths. . |
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This is a cool graphic.
But what MLB season are you basing this off of? Things like K%, BB%, slugging % etc can vary greatly, even in just a short 5-10 year period. I do think this guide can be helpful, but those using it should be mindful of era adjustments. Another reason I really value stats like OPS+, wRC_+, ERA+ etc
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And my two cents on the topic, as ive recently revisited my approach to stats, mainly thanks to this thread.
I figured that a cool way to go about stats is to start with the most general ones and break them down into smaller peaces. For batters I go with: WAR -> wRC+ = [OBP(AVG+BB%), ISO(2B, 3B, HR), SO%] BsR = wSB(SB, CS), UBR UZR and some simple positional adjustment(dont care for defense at 1B, really look at it at SS etc.) For pitchers I go with: WAR -> ERA+ FIP- HR/9 H/9 BB/9 K/9 And of course I use BABIP as my reference point for all of this. Last edited by tts0; 07-08-2020 at 10:33 AM. |
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This is wonderful. Thank you!
For individual fielding, have you considered including Individual Defensive Efficiency. |
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Why do you prefer UZR/ZR over ZR? Is UZR even OOTP or is ZR basically UZR?
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