International FA Signing Issue??

Poonox24 · 04-24-2020, 12:10 PM

Hey guys,

Is anyone finding that you can always sign the best INTL FA every year? As long as I offer them the Max (in my league it's $5 million), they always just sign with my squad within the next few days. I have NOT lost anyone I make the offer to in the last 5 seasons in the game and I am a small market team (PIT).

Is this happening for others? I almost have to institute house rules to not offer the best player in the INTL FA pool any money at this point, as I can easily snatch the best player every year.

andyhdz · 04-24-2020, 01:19 PM

Duplicate post

andyhdz · 04-24-2020, 01:21 PM

Yes and if someone else max bids 5 mil first you can't match it so it's always you max bid first you'll get him. I do a house rule where I only get one intl amateur every other year sort of a hybrid rule with the old intl bidding process. I tried using the old rule but some teams would bid outrageous signing bonuses for players.

wodi · 04-24-2020, 01:35 PM

Yup, happens for me too

jimmysthebestcop · 04-24-2020, 10:19 PM

Whoever offers 5 million first wins. Its been that way a couple of versions.

Not really sure if there is a fix for it in current game mechanics.

They would need some kind of mechanic where contract isn't the only factor. Where teams would have to work on the player and family to win them over.

Right now it's 5 million first. Even if 2 teams offered 5 million there is no way to place one offer above the other.

wodi · 04-24-2020, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

Whoever offers 5 million first wins. Its been that way a couple of versions.

Not really sure if there is a fix for it in current game mechanics.

They would need some kind of mechanic where contract isn't the only factor. Where teams would have to work on the player and family to win them over.

Right now it's 5 million first. Even if 2 teams offered 5 million there is no way to place one offer above the other.

Maybe the move is to turn the cap off?

jimmysthebestcop · 04-24-2020, 10:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wodi

Maybe the move is to turn the cap off?

But that goes against mlb rules. So I don't see a lot players doing that since default setup is generally the most popular.

I've just been increasing the amount of int amateurs that way teams can all snag a player that night be good. But some teams don't even budget money for it.

SirMichaelJordan · 04-24-2020, 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jimmysthebestcop

But that goes against mlb rules. So I don't see a lot players doing that since default setup is generally the most popular.

I've just been increasing the amount of int amateurs that way teams can all snag a player that night be good. But some teams don't even budget money for it.

The default amount of int amateur is way too low compared to reality.

andyhdz · 04-24-2020, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by wodi

Maybe the move is to turn the cap off?

I tried that with my league like I said and the bidding can get rather ridiculous. Pick your poison I guess. I like my house rule of just getting one every other year. They are not superstars every year.

thklein · 04-25-2020, 01:31 AM

How do you know what other teams are offering? I’ve had cases where I’ve initially offered well over $4 million, they come back and say someone out I’d me, and then I offer $5 million and get him every time. I’ve always assumed the other team offered $5 milllion too and they were just choosing me.

There’s a simple way and a complex way it could be fixed, The simple way would be to just have the player select randomly if there were multiple $5 million offers. The complex way would be to give different international free agents different preference. Some prioritize winning. Some prioritize a large market. Some would rather be in a small market. Some prioritize a loyal fan base. Some want to play on a team with other players from the same country.

But to answer the original question, yes, I get my top international free agent every time unless I decide there’s no one worth $5 million.

PSUColonel · 04-25-2020, 09:52 AM

I have an idea to fix this issue. Report it as a bug lol

PSUColonel · 05-09-2020, 01:40 AM

has this been looked at? Does anyone know?

Calvert98 · 05-09-2020, 03:15 AM

Well, I think my int-draft was set before the latest patch, so the initial demands were still skewed pretty high.

What I did notice however is that they seemed to adjust downward rather quickly or when I went to offer a signing bonus.

I think I will have a better read on it when I hit next season.

Has anyone-else had experience with this in the game with the latest patch?

jimmysthebestcop · 05-09-2020, 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Calvert98

Well, I think my int-draft was set before the latest patch, so the initial demands were still skewed pretty high.

What I did notice however is that they seemed to adjust downward rather quickly or when I went to offer a signing bonus.

I think I will have a better read on it when I hit next season.

Has anyone-else had experience with this in the game with the latest patch?

You still automatically get whoever you want if you offer 5 million. Since teams can't offer more then 5 million the first to offer 5 million gets the player.

So yeah the human player can easily get 1 of the top 3 prospects every year. That still always don't become MLB ready though that is no guarantee but it does increase the odds I guess.

Just budget 5 million in expenses offer it on Day 1 and you will 100% always get whoever you want no matter what. It doesn't even make sense to try and get a player for say 3.5 million when it might require negotiations but 5 million is instant.

The mechanic is really simple so under scrutiny it appears broken. But of all things in OOTPB this is of my least concern. You are still lucky if 1 out of 5 of these guys makes the show. Even if they make it by 23 that's 8 years. young say 21 is still 5 years. So not real concerned about it.

now this on the other hand......................

The even bigger glitch/loop/exploit is if you immediately promote 1 of these 5 million USD amateurs and try to trade them. You will get insane offers from the AI for top prospects who might even be close to mlb ready. The int amat are 16, 5 to 8 years away from mlb.

So the exploit is that 5 million can basically get you a top 10 prospect who is either ready for the show immediately or at the start of next season. Because every scout and OSA has that int amat rated so high. They always think the potential for everything is max. And since they have no stats even their ratings go down it wont be till next year basically. And there is no rule preventing their trade only a rule preventing 1st year draftees.

04-24-2020, 12:10 PM	#1
Poonox24 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2019 Posts: 238	International FA Signing Issue?? Hey guys, Is anyone finding that you can always sign the best INTL FA every year? As long as I offer them the Max (in my league it's $5 million), they always just sign with my squad within the next few days. I have NOT lost anyone I make the offer to in the last 5 seasons in the game and I am a small market team (PIT). Is this happening for others? I almost have to institute house rules to not offer the best player in the INTL FA pool any money at this point, as I can easily snatch the best player every year.

04-24-2020, 01:19 PM	#2
andyhdz All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fresno, CA by way of Texas Posts: 1,754	Duplicate post Last edited by andyhdz; 04-24-2020 at 02:13 PM.

04-24-2020, 01:21 PM	#3
andyhdz All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Fresno, CA by way of Texas Posts: 1,754	Yes and if someone else max bids 5 mil first you can't match it so it's always you max bid first you'll get him. I do a house rule where I only get one intl amateur every other year sort of a hybrid rule with the old intl bidding process. I tried using the old rule but some teams would bid outrageous signing bonuses for players. Last edited by andyhdz; 04-24-2020 at 01:26 PM.

04-24-2020, 01:35 PM	#4
wodi All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2014 Posts: 535	Yup, happens for me too

04-24-2020, 10:19 PM	#5
jimmysthebestcop Banned Join Date: Jun 2018 Posts: 1,727 Infractions: 0/2 (5)	Whoever offers 5 million first wins. Its been that way a couple of versions. Not really sure if there is a fix for it in current game mechanics. They would need some kind of mechanic where contract isn't the only factor. Where teams would have to work on the player and family to win them over. Right now it's 5 million first. Even if 2 teams offered 5 million there is no way to place one offer above the other.

04-25-2020, 01:31 AM	#10
thklein Major Leagues Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 300	How do you know what other teams are offering? I’ve had cases where I’ve initially offered well over $4 million, they come back and say someone out I’d me, and then I offer $5 million and get him every time. I’ve always assumed the other team offered $5 milllion too and they were just choosing me. There’s a simple way and a complex way it could be fixed, The simple way would be to just have the player select randomly if there were multiple $5 million offers. The complex way would be to give different international free agents different preference. Some prioritize winning. Some prioritize a large market. Some would rather be in a small market. Some prioritize a loyal fan base. Some want to play on a team with other players from the same country. But to answer the original question, yes, I get my top international free agent every time unless I decide there’s no one worth $5 million.

04-25-2020, 09:52 AM	#11
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,106	I have an idea to fix this issue. Report it as a bug lol

05-09-2020, 01:40 AM	#12
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,106	has this been looked at? Does anyone know?

05-09-2020, 03:15 AM	#13
Calvert98 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2010 Posts: 579	Well, I think my int-draft was set before the latest patch, so the initial demands were still skewed pretty high. What I did notice however is that they seemed to adjust downward rather quickly or when I went to offer a signing bonus. I think I will have a better read on it when I hit next season. Has anyone-else had experience with this in the game with the latest patch?