Why do my ratings keep going back to OSA?

jpeters1734 · 04-12-2020, 08:36 PM

I have scouting turned on, I have my own scout and all, but quite frequently as I'm looking through player profiles and various screens, I will notice that it's set to OSA instead of my scout. It's very annoying as I never look at OSA. Does this happen to anyone else and do you know why it changes?

Len1950 · 04-12-2020, 09:33 PM

Yep. It's happening to me too. Didn't before. I know I'm not doing anything different. No, I don't know why.

dward1 · 04-12-2020, 09:56 PM

it happens in older versions sometimes also, not sure why. feels random

Matt Arnold · 04-13-2020, 12:19 PM

If you don't have a scouting report on a player, it will switch to OSA. That may be the case here (although possible something else is causing the switch).

jpeters1734 · 04-13-2020, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

If you don't have a scouting report on a player, it will switch to OSA. That may be the case here (although possible something else is causing the switch).

Idk if that’s what’s happening since I’m mainly just looking at my ML players. Perhaps a better idea of instead it switching when there’s not a report, keep it locked on to the scout but just gray out the ratings. Because it’s super annoying and causing me to focus too much to see if I’m looking at my scouts’s or OSA ratings

smythejd · 04-13-2020, 03:24 PM

I have a work around (for me).

I go to the free agent screen and change the scout from OSA to my scout.

That seems to correct it for me...

LooneyOne · 04-13-2020, 11:16 PM

Just a tip .. forget your scouting .. just use OSA .. im in year 2028 and OSA has never been wrong in its potential ratings for players ive drafted ..

jpeters1734 · 04-14-2020, 12:08 AM

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Originally Posted by LooneyOne

Just a tip .. forget your scouting .. just use OSA .. im in year 2028 and OSA has never been wrong in its potential ratings for players ive drafted ..

Lol well that’s certainly not supposed to be the case. @matt?

ChrisJNelson · 04-14-2020, 12:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

If you don't have a scouting report on a player, it will switch to OSA. That may be the case here (although possible something else is causing the switch).

It's more than that. It happens twice an offseason (I believe sometime after FA opens and again closer to spring training, but I can't recall exactly). This is despite me making no changes to my scouting director. It happens every year of my sim, like clockwork, and has done this for multiple versions now. It's a slight inconvenience because sometimes I don't notice it's happened until I've made some roster decisions based on the OSA info I don't want. I personally wish it would NEVER change back to OSA unless your Scouting Director spot is unfilled.

dward1 · 04-14-2020, 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

Lol well that’s certainly not supposed to be the case. @matt?

it was a bug for 4 or 5 years that OSA was always 100% accurate. it was fixed in last 20 update, supposedly but I haven't checked. I still try to avoid looking at it as it's obvious cheating

thklein · 04-14-2020, 10:47 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisJNelson

It's more than that. It happens twice an offseason (I believe sometime after FA opens and again closer to spring training, but I can't recall exactly). This is despite me making no changes to my scouting director. It happens every year of my sim, like clockwork, and has done this for multiple versions now. It's a slight inconvenience because sometimes I don't notice it's happened until I've made some roster decisions based on the OSA info I don't want. I personally wish it would NEVER change back to OSA unless your Scouting Director spot is unfilled.

I've noticed the same thing. I always deal with my Rule 5 eligible prospects after free agents declare, and halfway through I realize I've been using OSA scouting. Really annoying.

ThePride87 · 04-14-2020, 11:03 AM

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Originally Posted by dward1

it was a bug for 4 or 5 years that OSA was always 100% accurate. it was fixed in last 20 update, supposedly but I haven't checked. I still try to avoid looking at it as it's obvious cheating

Ok, a couple things here. 1) how many of you knew there was an OSA problem and decided not to really push for change? Why did it take until the end of OOTP 20 for the team to patch it if people suspected it? 2) if it's been fixed, why would you think it's cheating?

jpeters1734 · 04-14-2020, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ThePride87

Ok, a couple things here. 1) how many of you knew there was an OSA problem and decided not to really push for change? Why did it take until the end of OOTP 20 for the team to patch it if people suspected it? 2) if it's been fixed, why would you think it's cheating?

To be fair, I think a lot of people are just used to big companies not caring what is being said and also, not really needing to report bugs. They would be surprised to learn just how much impact community members have on this game. If someone experiences a bug, there's a decent chance that it hasn't been reported already. I do hope more people will realize this

Matt Arnold · 04-14-2020, 12:25 PM

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Originally Posted by jpeters1734

Idk if that’s what’s happening since I’m mainly just looking at my ML players. Perhaps a better idea of instead it switching when there’s not a report, keep it locked on to the scout but just gray out the ratings. Because it’s super annoying and causing me to focus too much to see if I’m looking at my scouts’s or OSA ratings

There's some annoying bits that make it not quite work that way, but I'll try to have another look to see if there is something we can do to prevent that.

For anyone having this issue, the best way for us to track it down is if you can tell me the exact page that it first shifts away, that can really help us narrow it down. As I said before my first guess was the "player page for a player with no team scouting report", but it might be another spot with a similar scenario. Or if not and it seems to happen off a sim, that's good to know too, since it's possible there's something internally which is not resetting things properly either.

BIG17EASY · 04-14-2020, 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePride87

Ok, a couple things here. 1) how many of you knew there was an OSA problem and decided not to really push for change? Why did it take until the end of OOTP 20 for the team to patch it if people suspected it? 2) if it's been fixed, why would you think it's cheating?

I don't think a lot of people knew about it until there was light shed on it a couple months ago. I certainly didn't. I also think it's an indication that not a lot of people switch back and forth between OSA and their own scout, although I could be wrong.

thklein · 04-14-2020, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePride87

Ok, a couple things here. 1) how many of you knew there was an OSA problem and decided not to really push for change? Why did it take until the end of OOTP 20 for the team to patch it if people suspected it? 2) if it's been fixed, why would you think it's cheating?

I didn't suspect anything until someone else pointed it out and I confirmed it for myself. At that point I was pretty adamant that it needed to be fixed, and to the company's credit they fixed it soon thereafter.

Dyzalot · 04-14-2020, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by ThePride87

Ok, a couple things here. 1) how many of you knew there was an OSA problem and decided not to really push for change? Why did it take until the end of OOTP 20 for the team to patch it if people suspected it? 2) if it's been fixed, why would you think it's cheating?

I was one of the people that did a decent amount of investigation into the problem. I didn't become aware of the problem until just a few months ago. It was supposed to be fixed in one of the last patches for OOTP20 and it did seem to be working correctly after that in my OOTP20 saves. I'm just now finally downloading OOTP21 so maybe I'll do some more testing when I get a chance. Either way, not many of us knew there was a problem for all those years and the few that did were either ignored when they brought it up or just kept quiet.

USF · 04-14-2020, 03:37 PM

I've only encountered this topic when I have visited the FA pool and switched to OSA to create a new player and then forget to switch back to my scout. When I go to my organization it maintains the last selection I used.

JasonC23 · 04-14-2020, 06:47 PM

I've had it happen when switching from Perfect Team back to "regular" OOTP.

Tom88 · 04-14-2020, 07:03 PM

This is every time you enter a retired player's profile, for example, let everyone enter the Babe Ruth profile. It will always be switched to OSA. I wrote about this problem for years, but the game developers do nothing. I often check retired players and it's annoying.

https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=312257

04-12-2020, 08:36 PM	#1
jpeters1734 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2014 Location: Juust a bit outside... Posts: 6,247	Why do my ratings keep going back to OSA? I have scouting turned on, I have my own scout and all, but quite frequently as I'm looking through player profiles and various screens, I will notice that it's set to OSA instead of my scout. It's very annoying as I never look at OSA. Does this happen to anyone else and do you know why it changes? __________________ "Cannonball Coming!" Go Bucs!! Founder and League Caretaker of the Professional Baseball Circuit, www.probaseballcircuit.com An Un-Official Guide to Minor League Management in OOTP 21 Ratings Scale Conversion Cross-Reference Cheat Sheet

04-13-2020, 11:16 PM	#7
LooneyOne Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 80	Just a tip .. forget your scouting .. just use OSA .. im in year 2028 and OSA has never been wrong in its potential ratings for players ive drafted .. __________________ Last edited by LooneyOne; 04-13-2020 at 11:17 PM.

04-14-2020, 03:37 PM	#18
USF All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Maple, ON - Canada Posts: 1,085	I've only encountered this topic when I have visited the FA pool and switched to OSA to create a new player and then forget to switch back to my scout. When I go to my organization it maintains the last selection I used. __________________ Commissioner of the ABL http://www.usfleagues.net/website/

04-12-2020, 09:33 PM	#2
Len1950 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Seattle, WA Posts: 70	Yep. It's happening to me too. Didn't before. I know I'm not doing anything different. No, I don't know why.

04-12-2020, 09:56 PM	#3
dward1 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2012 Posts: 934	it happens in older versions sometimes also, not sure why. feels random

04-13-2020, 12:19 PM	#4
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,908	If you don't have a scouting report on a player, it will switch to OSA. That may be the case here (although possible something else is causing the switch).

04-13-2020, 03:24 PM	#6
smythejd All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 1,023	I have a work around (for me). I go to the free agent screen and change the scout from OSA to my scout. That seems to correct it for me...

04-14-2020, 06:47 PM	#19
JasonC23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Huntley, IL Posts: 902	I've had it happen when switching from Perfect Team back to "regular" OOTP.

04-14-2020, 07:03 PM	#20
Tom88 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2018 Location: Cracow Posts: 112	This is every time you enter a retired player's profile, for example, let everyone enter the Babe Ruth profile. It will always be switched to OSA. I wrote about this problem for years, but the game developers do nothing. I often check retired players and it's annoying. https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=312257