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Old 03-23-2020, 01:15 PM   #1
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Contract Question (Minor League Option)

So I'm a believer in trying to nab a bunch of ML players late in FA to fill in my minor league system where need be. For example, in 2021 guys like Marwin Gonzalez, Melky Cabrera, Rick Porcello give me some nice depth, hopefully create a decent W-L record for morale.

When I sign them, the contract type is "Minor League with Major League Option" and usually give them like a 1.5-1.7 contract, with no intention of calling them up to the big leagues. But when I go to my fiance page (It's currently only April 5), their full salaires are coming up on my payroll, even though they aren't on the ML roster. After the 30 day option window, will those salaries be removed if I don't call them up to the ML roster? I just want to make sure I'm not actually paying all these guys that much, going to affect my bottom line.

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Old 03-23-2020, 02:08 PM   #2
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I could be wrong, but that should just be accruing (projecting) the expense. If you never promote them, it should fall off as it would no longer be a possibility for that expense to be realized.


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Old 03-23-2020, 02:52 PM   #3
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I could be wrong, but that should just be accruing (projecting) the expense. If you never promote them, it should fall off as it would no longer be a possibility for that expense to be realized.


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So I've now past the 30 day option window and it doesn't seem like any decided to test FA, but they are still on my financial list. I would hope at the end of the season those fall off the list like you are suggesting. Anyone else got any idea?
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Old 03-23-2020, 03:16 PM   #4
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So I've now past the 30 day option window and it doesn't seem like any decided to test FA, but they are still on my financial list. I would hope at the end of the season those fall off the list like you are suggesting. Anyone else got any idea?


It should actually force them to be a free agent. Are you sure you’re past the 30th day pf the season?


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Old 03-23-2020, 03:20 PM   #5
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It should actually force them to be a free agent. Are you sure you’re past the 30th day pf the season?


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I am. The way I understand it, I'm signing them to a minor league but the player has the option to become a FA after the 30 day window if they choose. I'm taking it as none of the guys decided to leave, but if I keep them down the entire season, they just earn a minor league salary, not the money I signed them to "If they are called up to the Major Leagues"

Right? Sorry if this is confusing, but feel like it's an important thing.
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Old 03-23-2020, 03:52 PM   #6
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I am. The way I understand it, I'm signing them to a minor league but the player has the option to become a FA after the 30 day window if they choose. I'm taking it as none of the guys decided to leave, but if I keep them down the entire season, they just earn a minor league salary, not the money I signed them to "If they are called up to the Major Leagues"

Right? Sorry if this is confusing, but feel like it's an important thing.
It's not confusing. This is how it should work. It's effectively OOTP's version of an opt-out. I haven't gotten to a point where I could test this myself, but in previous versions, the player automatically becomes a free agent at the 30-day mark.
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Old 03-23-2020, 04:25 PM   #7
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It's not confusing. This is how it should work. It's effectively OOTP's version of an opt-out. I haven't gotten to a point where I could test this myself, but in previous versions, the player automatically becomes a free agent at the 30-day mark.
Then let me know what you find because I’m past the 30 day point, and I’ve got a bunch of guys on my AAA and AA roster that were signed in free agency still on my teams, and on the hook for the 1.2-1.5 million dollar contracts. And I don’t want to pay them
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Old 03-23-2020, 05:24 PM   #8
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Hopefully someone else can independently confirm this.

In a quick test I ran, I signed a player (not a very good one) to a split contract. He did not opt out of his contract and I believe I did carry the expense the whole season. At one point, I was going to release him and it said I was going to eat about $560k in salary. (This was in June. The original contract was $850k). That's not how it's supposed to work; he should only be paid that sum if he's on the major league roster.
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Old 03-23-2020, 07:49 PM   #9
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Hopefully someone else can independently confirm this.

In a quick test I ran, I signed a player (not a very good one) to a split contract. He did not opt out of his contract and I believe I did carry the expense the whole season. At one point, I was going to release him and it said I was going to eat about $560k in salary. (This was in June. The original contract was $850k). That's not how it's supposed to work; he should only be paid that sum if he's on the major league roster.
EXACTLY! Thank you. Two possibilities at this point:

1. It’s a bug
2. At the end of the season, if the player was never called up, maybe that money gets subtracted from your total? It shouldn’t be that way, but maybe that’s how it’s done?
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