All-star game question

FalloutBoy · 04-08-2003, 09:27 PM

I am fairly certain that my team did not have an all-star representative. I know my team wasn't very good, but it's the rule. Does this game not follow the rule?

Romanichine · 04-08-2003, 09:37 PM

I guess not. Last season my team did not have one either, though they were not the worse team (81-81 record). I guess they were just not good enough individually.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-08-2003, 09:42 PM

No the game does not do that, the all-star game is a very small part of the game and that is probably the reason why this is not handled that way.

Behind Red Doors · 04-09-2003, 12:24 AM

I noticed that too. I don't believe every team should have a rep if they don't have anyone deserving. I think MLB needs to change that, but I liked how the game did.

CubsSox · 04-09-2003, 02:16 AM

I don't think the All-Star game should have every team with a rep, but I think a choice on how many All-Star selections overall per team (25 to 35?) would reduce the number of snubs and be a neat feature.

BrandonJ33 · 04-09-2003, 02:28 AM

Hopefully All-Star game stats won't be counted into players regular season totals with the next patch. I took it off the schedule because of that.

Unfriendlybob · 04-09-2003, 02:48 AM

Does it Brandon? I know in the box score for the all-star game you'll see the results of the game's stats added on to a player's total, but I thought after the game those totals revert back so that the stats don't really count.

Can someone verify this?

General Mike · 04-09-2003, 03:26 AM

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Originally posted by Unfriendlybob
Does it Brandon? I know in the box score for the all-star game you'll see the results of the game's stats added on to a player's total, but I thought after the game those totals revert back so that the stats don't really count.

Can someone verify this?

All Star game stats don't count. I know Steve has commented on why it appears like they do in the past. I believe it has to do with recoding parts of the game engine to just count one game seperately.

FalloutBoy · 04-09-2003, 03:56 AM

An all-star selection and a high draft pick are about the only rewards a bad team has to look forward to each year. Taking away the all-star game would be just another slap in the face of small-market fans.

rjb182 · 04-09-2003, 04:11 AM

I'd love to see Ootp have at least the option to force an All-Star representative from each team. I know a lot of people don't like it IRL, but I think it's important-- fans of every team should have at least one guy they can watch the All Star Game for.

Actually, the choice to select the league All-Stars yourself would be a great option, too. I used to love selecting guys for a Pro Bowl back in my Tecmo Super Bowl days...

HolyCow98 · 04-09-2003, 04:15 AM

All-Star stats do not count as far as stats goes...don't worry about what it shows in the box score...it doesn't get saved that way....

OOTP doesn't try to copy the rules from MLB...so thats pretty much why its not in there..

It would be kinda cool if we could customize to some degree some of the factors of making the all-star team..size of the rosters...what to favor, IE power, AVG, speed, Def...that kinda thing...

Steve Kuffrey · 04-09-2003, 09:13 AM

The stats from the all-star game DO NOT count in season totals, it just "appears" that way because of the box score. In order for this not to "appear" this way an entirely separate game engine would have to be programmed for "one" game. Not a wise use of time.....

ctorg · 04-09-2003, 10:31 AM

I've always noticed that it didn't have representatives from every team, but it really never bothered me. The All Star game is only minimally important to me. Anyway, I'd rather see a deserving player make the All Star game than a guy that's just there to fill a quota.

BrandonJ33 · 04-09-2003, 04:00 PM

Ah, good! Thanks for clearing that up guys! And my apologies for giving out misinformation.

rogmax11 · 04-09-2003, 06:09 PM

Props to rjb182 and holycow98 for their suggestions. Allow me to add a heartful "Amen!" to those posts.

I've hoped for some time to amend the All-Star process along the lines of my suggestions re: post-season awards, in that the game engine proposes a slate of candidates/honorees and the game owner selects the winners.

I could live with the present system if something were done so that the game selected the starters ( as done ), and we could pick the remainder of the rosters. This is, admittedly, way down on my list of "hoped-fors", far below the desire for customized playoffs ( he lobbied ).

04-08-2003, 09:27 PM	#1
FalloutBoy Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 15	All-star game question I am fairly certain that my team did not have an all-star representative. I know my team wasn't very good, but it's the rule. Does this game not follow the rule?

04-08-2003, 09:37 PM	#2
Romanichine Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Montreal, PQ Posts: 20	I guess not. Last season my team did not have one either, though they were not the worse team (81-81 record). I guess they were just not good enough individually. __________________ -- Roman

04-08-2003, 09:42 PM	#3
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	No the game does not do that, the all-star game is a very small part of the game and that is probably the reason why this is not handled that way. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-09-2003, 12:24 AM	#4
Behind Red Doors Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Kentucky Posts: 73	I noticed that too. I don't believe every team should have a rep if they don't have anyone deserving. I think MLB needs to change that, but I liked how the game did. __________________ <A HREF=http://www.redszone.com>Yeah. Well. Ya know that's just like, uh, your opinion, man. <IMG SRC=http://thechemicalelement.com/heros.jpg BORDER=0></A>

04-09-2003, 02:16 AM	#5
CubsSox Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Chicago Posts: 206	I don't think the All-Star game should have every team with a rep, but I think a choice on how many All-Star selections overall per team (25 to 35?) would reduce the number of snubs and be a neat feature. __________________ It's me... Chae!

04-09-2003, 02:28 AM	#6
BrandonJ33 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 33	Hopefully All-Star game stats won't be counted into players regular season totals with the next patch. I took it off the schedule because of that.

04-09-2003, 02:48 AM	#7
Unfriendlybob Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Georgia Posts: 16	Does it Brandon? I know in the box score for the all-star game you'll see the results of the game's stats added on to a player's total, but I thought after the game those totals revert back so that the stats don't really count. Can someone verify this?

04-09-2003, 03:56 AM	#9
FalloutBoy Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 15	An all-star selection and a high draft pick are about the only rewards a bad team has to look forward to each year. Taking away the all-star game would be just another slap in the face of small-market fans.

04-09-2003, 04:11 AM	#10
rjb182 Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: New England Posts: 8	I'd love to see Ootp have at least the option to force an All-Star representative from each team. I know a lot of people don't like it IRL, but I think it's important-- fans of every team should have at least one guy they can watch the All Star Game for. Actually, the choice to select the league All-Stars yourself would be a great option, too. I used to love selecting guys for a Pro Bowl back in my Tecmo Super Bowl days...

04-09-2003, 04:15 AM	#11
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	All-Star stats do not count as far as stats goes...don't worry about what it shows in the box score...it doesn't get saved that way.... OOTP doesn't try to copy the rules from MLB...so thats pretty much why its not in there.. It would be kinda cool if we could customize to some degree some of the factors of making the all-star team..size of the rosters...what to favor, IE power, AVG, speed, Def...that kinda thing... __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

04-09-2003, 09:13 AM	#12
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	The stats from the all-star game DO NOT count in season totals, it just "appears" that way because of the box score. In order for this not to "appear" this way an entirely separate game engine would have to be programmed for "one" game. Not a wise use of time..... __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-09-2003, 10:31 AM	#13
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I've always noticed that it didn't have representatives from every team, but it really never bothered me. The All Star game is only minimally important to me. Anyway, I'd rather see a deserving player make the All Star game than a guy that's just there to fill a quota. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

04-09-2003, 04:00 PM	#14
BrandonJ33 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Mechanicsville, VA Posts: 33	Ah, good! Thanks for clearing that up guys! And my apologies for giving out misinformation.

04-09-2003, 06:09 PM	#15
rogmax11 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 1,320	Props to rjb182 and holycow98 for their suggestions. Allow me to add a heartful "Amen!" to those posts. I've hoped for some time to amend the All-Star process along the lines of my suggestions re: post-season awards, in that the game engine proposes a slate of candidates/honorees and the game owner selects the winners. I could live with the present system if something were done so that the game selected the starters ( as done ), and we could pick the remainder of the rosters. This is, admittedly, way down on my list of "hoped-fors", far below the desire for customized playoffs ( he lobbied ).