Why OOTB Is The Best

Curve Ball Dave · 03-07-2020, 08:11 PM

So I just watched a video on the new features for 21 and saw that we can list top prospects by position. Roughly a year ago I asked if this would be possible and was told it was, but perhaps not until the next version.

If it was my request alone, which I doubt, that lead to this or not isn't the point. The point is that OOTB is not the game just the developers want it to be, it is the game the players want it to be. Reasonable, doable requests by the playing community are considered and if possible implemented. The developers are under no illusions that they alone know what is the buying public wants. They listen and give the public what it wants.

All of the new features, or more robust old features, have been discussed on this forum at one time or another. The same holds true for features added to previous versions.

Baseball caps off to the crew at OOTP for giving us the game we want, not the game they think we'll want. That's why you're so successful and why we are a dedicated customer base.

Matt Arnold · 03-07-2020, 08:37 PM

We love our fans. I still remember one time a couple years ago where someone made a comment in a "wouldn't it be cool if we could do X" on like a Sunday night, I read it Monday morning, thought to myself, "you know? That would be cool". Did the change, we had a build planned that night, it went well, and ended up being released like a day or two later. The commenter on the boards, needless to say, was a little surprised to see that in the changelist for the version

Déjà Bru · 03-08-2020, 10:25 AM

The first, indeed the crucial step in this process is designer involvement in the forums. Not just an occasional "drop by" but almost daily involvement. MH does not do this although he is around frequently. Fortunately, he has staff members/partners who are constantly in attendance and that makes a big difference.

I participate in a forum for another game that I like and the opposite is true; most of the time, nearly all of it, it's just us talking to ourselves. That ownership absence is both indicative and self-fulfilling. The game suffers accordingly in quality assurance, innovation, marketing, and customer loyalty.

I cannot figure it out, other than it appears to be a part-time hobby for the main guy with a couple of free-lancers doing odd jobs. The game has great potential but owned and operated by these guys, it's going nowhere.

03-07-2020, 08:11 PM	#1
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,392	Why OOTB Is The Best So I just watched a video on the new features for 21 and saw that we can list top prospects by position. Roughly a year ago I asked if this would be possible and was told it was, but perhaps not until the next version. If it was my request alone, which I doubt, that lead to this or not isn't the point. The point is that OOTB is not the game just the developers want it to be, it is the game the players want it to be. Reasonable, doable requests by the playing community are considered and if possible implemented. The developers are under no illusions that they alone know what is the buying public wants. They listen and give the public what it wants. All of the new features, or more robust old features, have been discussed on this forum at one time or another. The same holds true for features added to previous versions. Baseball caps off to the crew at OOTP for giving us the game we want, not the game they think we'll want. That's why you're so successful and why we are a dedicated customer base. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn. Last edited by Curve Ball Dave; 03-07-2020 at 08:42 PM.

03-08-2020, 10:25 AM	#3
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Long Island Posts: 11,741	The first, indeed the crucial step in this process is designer involvement in the forums. Not just an occasional "drop by" but almost daily involvement. MH does not do this although he is around frequently. Fortunately, he has staff members/partners who are constantly in attendance and that makes a big difference. I participate in a forum for another game that I like and the opposite is true; most of the time, nearly all of it, it's just us talking to ourselves. That ownership absence is both indicative and self-fulfilling. The game suffers accordingly in quality assurance, innovation, marketing, and customer loyalty. I cannot figure it out, other than it appears to be a part-time hobby for the main guy with a couple of free-lancers doing odd jobs. The game has great potential but owned and operated by these guys, it's going nowhere. __________________ - Bru

03-07-2020, 08:37 PM	#2
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 16,218	We love our fans. I still remember one time a couple years ago where someone made a comment in a "wouldn't it be cool if we could do X" on like a Sunday night, I read it Monday morning, thought to myself, "you know? That would be cool". Did the change, we had a build planned that night, it went well, and ended up being released like a day or two later. The commenter on the boards, needless to say, was a little surprised to see that in the changelist for the version