Service Time Manipulation?

Curve Ball Dave · 03-21-2019, 06:05 PM

So with each new version I create my fictional league using the current season and its rosters as a base. I then add six more teams to make a 36 team league. To have enough players I import historical teams and also many historical players. At the same time, I delete the current version of several of many favorite players who are on the wrong side of 30 and import them as rookies (Verlander, Pujols, Cabreera, McCutchen to name a few) so they can start anew as young players with their whole careers ahead of them.

The historical players I import are all time legends. I import them as rookies so of course they have no service time. The AI was smart enough to make Christy Mathewson the #1 overall pick in the Fantasy Draft. Many others were first round picks, and all were drafted in the first five rounds.

The draft is done, rosters are set and it's Opening Day in my league which I set for April 1. Much to my surprise, many of the HOF historical players are in AAA. As they are rookies they have no service time. It's hard to make the case that the guys on the big league club are better. A few here or there need a bit more development, but the others are the star players you'd expect.

Is the AI manipulating their service time to get an extra year before these players can be free agents? Does this version have AI that is that clever? We'll see how long these guys stay in AAA.

Mind you this is not a complaint. If these teams are manipulating the service time it will go to show just how realistic the AI has been made in this version.

Watch this space.

BoofBonser26 · 03-21-2019, 11:44 PM

AI caring about service time was listed as a new feature this year.

Curve Ball Dave · 03-22-2019, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by BoofBonser26

AI caring about service time was listed as a new feature this year.

It apparently shows

sabrtoothtiger · 03-22-2019, 07:02 AM

i've seen this while simming too... Vlad Jr spent 15 days in AAA before being recalled - same with a couple other top prospects.

Lukas Berger · 03-22-2019, 07:03 AM

Yes, this is intended AI behavior

Curve Ball Dave · 03-22-2019, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Lukas Berger

Yes, this is intended AI behavior

I don't mind. We want the game to be as realistic as possible.

Curve Ball Dave · 03-22-2019, 07:20 PM

The season is underway and oh yeah, big time manipulation as guys have been called up, but not before a token amount of time at AAA. That's real, kudos the developers for taking this into account.

TomVeal · 03-22-2019, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Curve Ball Dave

The season is underway and oh yeah, big time manipulation as guys have been called up, but not before a token amount of time at AAA. That's real, kudos the developers for taking this into account.

For true realism, there should be story lines complaining about this "exploitation" of players who will have to endure an extra year of pulling down only a couple of million dollars of salary.

Curve Ball Dave · 03-22-2019, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by TomVeal

For true realism, there should be story lines complaining about this "exploitation" of players who will have to endure an extra year of pulling down only a couple of million dollars of salary.

Matt Arnold · 03-22-2019, 08:00 PM

Can't say this was the proudest feature to implement...

Curve Ball Dave · 03-22-2019, 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt Arnold

Can't say this was the proudest feature to implement...

It's real and relevant. It's the little things that make a sim great.

03-22-2019, 07:03 AM	#5
Lukas Berger OOTP Developments Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Nice, Côte d'Azur, France Posts: 21,034	Yes, this is intended AI behavior __________________ lukas@ootpdevelopments.com PreOrder Out of the Park Baseball 26! Need to upload files for us to check out? Instructions can be found here

03-22-2019, 07:20 PM	#7
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,331	The season is underway and oh yeah, big time manipulation as guys have been called up, but not before a token amount of time at AAA. That's real, kudos the developers for taking this into account. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

03-21-2019, 06:05 PM	#1
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,331	Service Time Manipulation? So with each new version I create my fictional league using the current season and its rosters as a base. I then add six more teams to make a 36 team league. To have enough players I import historical teams and also many historical players. At the same time, I delete the current version of several of many favorite players who are on the wrong side of 30 and import them as rookies (Verlander, Pujols, Cabreera, McCutchen to name a few) so they can start anew as young players with their whole careers ahead of them. The historical players I import are all time legends. I import them as rookies so of course they have no service time. The AI was smart enough to make Christy Mathewson the #1 overall pick in the Fantasy Draft. Many others were first round picks, and all were drafted in the first five rounds. The draft is done, rosters are set and it's Opening Day in my league which I set for April 1. Much to my surprise, many of the HOF historical players are in AAA. As they are rookies they have no service time. It's hard to make the case that the guys on the big league club are better. A few here or there need a bit more development, but the others are the star players you'd expect. Is the AI manipulating their service time to get an extra year before these players can be free agents? Does this version have AI that is that clever? We'll see how long these guys stay in AAA. Mind you this is not a complaint. If these teams are manipulating the service time it will go to show just how realistic the AI has been made in this version. Watch this space. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn. Last edited by Curve Ball Dave; 03-21-2019 at 06:07 PM.

03-21-2019, 11:44 PM	#2
BoofBonser26 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chicago Posts: 357	AI caring about service time was listed as a new feature this year.

03-22-2019, 07:02 AM	#4
sabrtoothtiger Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2014 Posts: 137	i've seen this while simming too... Vlad Jr spent 15 days in AAA before being recalled - same with a couple other top prospects.

03-22-2019, 08:00 PM	#10
Matt Arnold OOTP Developer Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Here and there Posts: 15,480	Can't say this was the proudest feature to implement...